Well at the most, and I mean the most, these parents maybe could have lost track of him for an hour or two, but seventeen hours??? No way….. they should pay the price for neglect…. this poor child died a horrible death…. I have three children and I always knew where they were and if they were out of my sight for more than a few minutes, I was looking for them. There is NO excuse for this.

Comment by sandra — June 10, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

A little boy dies and it sounds like not much will happen to the parents… or, since the poor kid is DEAD, is that “substantial” enough for CPS???

Now that I know how little CPS cares for the children they have a solemn duty to protect, I will never live anywhere near Las Vegas! It just wouldn’t be safe for my children if I did so!

Comment by Sandra — June 10, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

I can understand forgetting your kid for about 17 minutes, but 17 hours? How did no one not miss him? At dinner? Oh, that’s right these kids don’t eat. What about bed that night? Good grief. Let’s see what happens to the parents, if anything.

Comment by D Jones — June 10, 2008 @ 5:42 pm

I am a father of two. I have a 6 and 10 year old. My wife and I maintain positive control at all times. I can’t fathom the circumstances and multiple failures that occurred. Unforgivable.

Comment by Hyrum Smith — June 10, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

I knew their Dad Stan pretty well His children were the most important in his life I cant imagine how this tragedy happened it shocks me.
Poor Jason my heart is sadened.

Comment by deirdra — June 10, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

How can you forget your child for 17 hours. I have a two year old and if I don’t see her for 5 minutes I am off looking to see what she is in to. But what puzzles me more is why was this child not able to get out of the vehicle himself? When I am outside cleaning my car, my children are in and out of the car. Not only that but honking the horn. Why was he unable to do anything!

Comment by jennifer — June 10, 2008 @ 6:51 pm

Las see him at 2:30 pm. What about dinner time? What about bed time? Do people not get there children ready for bed? Kiss them, hug them, tell them goodnight and tug them in? Something about this whole thing is wrong.

Comment by jennifer — June 10, 2008 @ 7:04 pm

How could they get through dinner, without noticing that their youngest was missing? Bath time? Bedtime? I wonder, were all the childcare tasks delegated to the other children? This reminds me of a similar case in Virginia a few years back. In Fairfax county Virginia it happened in a very large family….momma was out of town, poppa figured one of the older children was keeping track of the youngest…she died strapped in her car seat in the sweltering car. The father was sentenced to community service for his neglect. Last I read about it, he was appealing his conviction….laying the blame on one of his teens, so he could keep his security clearance and job.
I think it is tragic, and understand the reluctance to place blame on the bereaved parents, but there is just no excuse good enough, for the needless death of a neglected child.

Comment by ChrisC — June 10, 2008 @ 8:28 pm

This is worse than child sexual abuse - in the very least those victims can live and possibly heal - they can still live. (I know as I’ve been there.) This little boy gave his life and died a terrible, terrible death. It would not have been “quick” or “painless.” It would have taken at least 15 minutes or longer of sheer pain and toxic shock. I could go on - but lethal injection would have been a “Godsend.” Needless-to-say, it feels good to say that these parents or “caregivers” should die (ASAP) the same way this little child perished. That won’t happen as we are a “civilized” society. Perhaps in the long run - God or a higher power called this youngster to a better place eliminating what sounds like would have been a troubled future.

Comment by sam — June 10, 2008 @ 9:38 pm

“I knew their Dad Stan pretty well His children were the most important in his life I cant imagine how this tragedy happened it shocks me.
Poor Jason my heart is sadened.”

Yeah it looks like the kids were the most important thing in their lives, I mean its not like he lost track of the 4 year old for 17days, it was only 17hours……..

Comment by Frank — June 10, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

My husband and I only live a couple of blocks away from this family but we do not know them. We have 7 children from 1 year to 16years old. I cannot imagine loosing track of any of them. I am always looking to see what they are doing. Espically at night. I agree with “Jones” comment, “What about dinnertime”? What about bedtime, or even breakfast?? My younger kids are up at the crack of dawn wanting breakfast! Who was responsible for feeding this child? If me or my husband wake in the middle of the night we are checking on our kids to make sure they are covered. Didn’t the newscast say that he was not even in a carseat? Why didn’t he just get out of the car? My 2year old knows how to open the door from the inside, and she loves to honk the horn and play with the lights when we are just sitting in the driveway or at the drive in theatre. I hope that the right people are asking the right questions and that someone keeps pushing for the answers.

Comment by Rachel — June 10, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

This is, unfortunately, another example of why people should have to take and pass a test before they are allowed to have children…let alone 6 kids! There are no winners here, only losers. Surely the parents will not be punished. The case will be made for them by the bleeding hearts, and I’m sure their church, that they have and will suffer enough at dealing with their stupidity for the rest of their lives. The other kids will have to live with knowing they lost a brother to the stupidity of their parents. What a legacy! Oh, wait. Maybe there is one “winner” here. Their church will now be able to say something like, “Hey look. Have more kids yet, especially if they are boys, because if you forget a few here and there and they die…well, hey…just have more…but try to leave one window on your car open just a crack, just in case you forget one in the car and try to put the cap on a little tighter on the Drano. You know how boys are….always wanting to explore.”

Comment by John — June 11, 2008 @ 6:48 am

If my dog is missing for 10 minutes I go look for him. How the hell do you not look for a missing 4 year old?

The problem with Vegas is the people that live in it. Back in NY, this kind of crap only happened in the ghetto.

Comment by Jay — June 11, 2008 @ 7:05 am

I cannot fathom a 4 year old child misplaced for 17 hours. Wouldn’t there have been a meal or 2 during that time frame? I guess wondering if he brushed his teeth never crossed your mind either….or if he said his prayers before bed. You obviously didn’t tuck him in or give him a kiss before bedtime. How do you let 17 hours go by without missing him? I generally try to give people the benefit of doubt……..but there is absolutely no doubt in this situation. Pure and utter neglect. I’m furious. Hang them.

Comment by Becca — June 11, 2008 @ 7:18 am

Another story indicated that this child was disabled in some way. I worked at a rehabilitation workshop for disabled and disadvantaged individuals. Depending upon the disabilty, he might not have been able to alert anyone he was in the car. If he was sleeping, maybe he never woke up due to heat? Maybe he just “stayed” asleep? That being said, with Jason being a child with disabilities should have made these parents watch their child EVEN MORE! How sad to not have a kiss goodnight or a story read to them - or any type of bedtime ritual. Just heartbreaking.

Comment by From Wisconsin — June 11, 2008 @ 7:19 am

This story is completely fishy. 17 hours in a car, a child with special needs? Even more reason these parents should have realized he was missing; I am sure he needed more one on one attention since he was special needs. And the father, I heard him say that one of their younger children ususally lets them know if something is wrong; ITS the PARENTS responsiblity. I also found it disturbing that he wasn’t the slightest bit upset while interviewing. If these parents are not charged with something, it’s a disgrace–does that give other parents the right to leave a child in the car for SEVENTEEN HOURS?

Comment by Sue — June 11, 2008 @ 7:24 am

Dont blame CPS on this one. Las vegas has tens of thousands of familys like this one. CPS gives breifings to teachers and they say the same thing, they get hundreds of calls a day and they need to proritize them. Blame our city government for not giving enough funding to follow all of the leads instead of having to pick the worst 5 out of 100 calls.

Comment by will — June 11, 2008 @ 7:44 am

Begin a mother of three with a small child thats 18 months if he gone for 17 seconds Im looking for him all over the house and I always make sure my children are sleeping in their beds if I wake up in the middle of the night. Well I agree with Jones comment, dont people sit down at dinner time and feed their children or to they have the other kids do it? The news was saying that the mother and father were both sick dad was in bed and mom went to bed after making dinner leaving on the table for every one to fix it them selves. That the 19 old yr was suppose to feed the 4 year what the heck? was it the 19 year olds child NO mom sure have taken care of her children. As for me as a mother I can have the flu or any type of sickness I still make sure my kids are all a counted for…I just dont understand how you get out of a car go inside see your kids all playing and not notice that one is missing? I think we need to have Metro look at this case a little closer. Its very sad that a child had to lose his life for the parents mistake.

Comment by Maria — June 11, 2008 @ 7:46 am

Jason Rimer was severely retarded and he was unable to open doors or even honk a horn. Knowing this, don’t you think they should have been more aware of this child’s whereabouts. I am sorry for their loss, but they need to pay for their stupidity.

Comment by Missy — June 11, 2008 @ 7:56 am

The father of this child is angry, violent and ill-tempered. I don’t know what’s wrong with him but he completely and violently over-reacted to a very minor incident about two weeks ago. Metro was informed about the incident. Imagine my shock to see that his youngest, mentally retarded child, is now dead.

If the police and CPS let these parents skate on this I will be so upset. This was no accident. NOT AN ACCIDENT. Stan Rimer is a violent, angry, filthy mouthed individual and should not be trusted.

Comment by Lisa — June 11, 2008 @ 8:46 am

So incredibly sad. This did not have to, and never should have happened. I have 4 grown daughters, and 4 grown stepdaughters and I do licensed childcare out of my home so I know “hectic” and there was no excuse for this. I have seen many cases over the years where children have died in cars, and always tried to see the parents side. Those children are usually found within a matter of a couple hours once they are missed for something routine such as a meal. Seventeen hours is an unexcusable amount of time to have a child missing and not even know it. Considering they have been in trouble with CPS for neglect before, they should never get their children back and if they decide to make another one, he/she should be removed from their care immediatly upon birth. To bad we can’t require people to be “spayed or neutered”.

Comment by Diana — June 11, 2008 @ 8:52 am

There is something very wrong with this situation. I do not care how ill you are, when I am sick in bed I know where even all of my animals are!! I think that this should be looked into as a homicide and not an accident!! It does not add up. You get out of the car at 2:30 in the afternoon and do not realize that your child is missing until 17 hours later. It does not stop there either, having your child take care of your other child is your friggin excuse. Right, they need to have all children taken away and put in jail.

Comment by Amanda — June 11, 2008 @ 10:01 am

SEVENTEEN HOURS, NOW COME ON!
The father didn’t even sound upset during his interviews. Jason was a child with special needs; how can it just be a mistake? There is no possible way. If these parents are not arrested; then the justice system is not doing their job; That is giving other sick people the idea that they too can leave a child in their vehicle for SEVENTEEN hours and they too will get away with it. The father also was saying that another one of his kids usually informs them when something isn’t right and he never went to them. Is he trying to say it was his other sons fault? Also, if the kids fend for them self, how can a 4 year old who can not walk well on his on, can not hardly talk get his own food? Did they ever feed him? Again, this makes me physically sick and these parents need to be found reponsible and be arrested.

Comment by Gilford — June 11, 2008 @ 10:15 am

I have a feeling it will be Las Vegas as usual-nothing will be done with these parents. They should both be charged with involuntary manslaughter and their other children given to families that will give them a loving and nurturing environment. Even someone who has had to much to drink and kill someone in an accident are charged with involuntary manslaughter. These parents were obviously ubder the influence of some substance not to have missed their son for 17 hrs! We need to make the example that this kind of neglect WILL NOT BE TOLERATED in this city.

Comment by Joan — June 11, 2008 @ 11:39 am

Ok first I agree with MANY MANY of what’s being said.. however those few lame people that say it’s whats wrong with Vegas??? WTF?? These type of horrible tragedy doesnt only happen here. It happens all over. And IF YOU THINK IT THREW… MOST of these people came from ALL over to live here. Not natives! This poor child suffered a horrible death. These parent need to be help liable for that death. They were neglectful (by any definition) in this case, as was CPS who had been looking at this family (with one founded case) since forever.. And I think it’s worse that they lay blame on their 19 year old. I can go on forever but I think I should tend to my children as it has only been 3 minutes and my 3 year old is playing in his room where I cant see him and it’s my responsibilty to watch him, protect him and love him!!

Comment by Laura — June 11, 2008 @ 12:02 pm

How tragic for all. Both parents were supposedly sick at the time junior went unnoticed. (Hung over perhaps???) 17 hours…..7 hours shy of a full day! There has to be more to this story than the public is aware of.

Comment by Cathy — June 11, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

The radio reported that the day after the child died, the parents went to Wells Fargo bank to set up a trust fund to solicit donations. The child is discovered dead on Sunday afternoon and next day they are at the bank. You can see where the priorites are for this family. It is unconscionable to think that instead of being overcome with grief and guilt they are thinking of donations.

Comment by Pam — June 11, 2008 @ 12:16 pm

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Unbelievable!! On the news, their friend mentioned they were a good LDS family. What kind of good family would not miss a child for 17 hours, especially a special needs child! There is no excuse for this so-called “accident”. It was true negligence. The sad thing is that these parents will probably be free to continue having more children that they can abuse by forgetting them. Horrible situation!

I am a nanny for 3 children under the age of 6, and I would freak if I didn’t know where they were for 5 minutes!

Comment by Freda Harszy — June 11, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

This is extremely sad and just like everyone else there is no excuse and it seems like the dad already had planned on what he was going to say, when he says that they will see all the positive of what they have done and they will get their kids back. I mean, what is that???? it is like they already figured out what they were going to say. It really seems like maybe this child was just too much work for them and they found a way to get rid of him. ON the extreme opposite angle of this if it truley was an ACCIDENT there is no way in hell I would let them have those other children back–they have just proven that they are uncappable (ooops) of taking care of them. yup 17 hours–no way–they goofed in their plan–this is no accident.

Oh just for the record my kids are 19 16 and 14 and yes sometimes I throw food out for dinner the kids will grab what they want but I still know where they are going and what they are doing (for the most part) who ate and who didn’t. I definelty do not let 17 hours go by without knowing where they are –that is just insane. I still tuck them into bed and give them kisses before I myself go to bed and I make sure everyone and every animal and everything is secure in the house and everyone is in bed.

Comment by Erin — June 11, 2008 @ 2:06 pm

Can anyone answer why there are tragedies of mangitudes that kill thousands? Can anyone answer why there exists horrific accidents that take innocent lives? some of the comments are brutal and quite judgmental. I can only offer that there is NO EXPLANATION for such an accident. Noone will ever answer why or how this could have happened. Accidents can be prevented in the future, and changes can be made. But demanding “answers” and “explanations” is absurd. It is absurd because there are none. This seems to me to be a perfect storm scenario where the factors among others included the cleaning of the home, the size of the family, the lack of a structured schedule, and many others that I am sure are under investigations.
The FACT is it was NOT INTENTIONAL and a horrible accident.
I know personally that the parents have raised at least three good kids to adulthood that include both elder boys achieving Eagle Scouts in the boy scouts of America. One boy who is serving a selfless religious mission abroad. They have a wonderful daughter who is married and a parent herself.
The Rimers younger siblings include 3 active and normal children like anyones who are good citizens on the community, who are active in Boy Scouts and live HIGH MORAL and ETHICAL which are FAITH BASED. In fact the Child who found his deceased brother was in route to a WEEK LONG YOUTH LEADERSHIP TRAINING he EARNED.
The Mother is a stay at home mother all her life. The father in fact has a beautiful large home he has built and added to with his own hands. He was until the recent economy a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
The older children ALL HAVE GRADUATED from HIGH SCHOOL with GOOD GRADES!
NONE of their children have ever been ARRESTED, CHARGED, or EVEN LOOKED at for neither adult crimes OR JUVENILE CRIMES.

The Father and Mother do not have any PAST CRIMINAL HISTORY and in fact the Mother cannot even tell you what beer, alcohol, or drugs taste like.

This is a FAMILY of DEEP FAITH and HIGH MORALS who have led a life which defies the reality of the horrible accident that has occured.

YET A MAJORITY want their HEADS on PIG STICK? How is this? Does not the accomplishments and EVIDENCE of their work count for anything? IS this SOCIETY NO LONGER A FORGIVING SOCIETY? ARE WE NOW reduced to GLADIATOR STYLE tpye of JUDGMENT only seeking the DRAMA and THRILL of kicking folks when they are down? Is the PUBLICS NEED FOR RALITY TV and what it offers an appetite that CANNOT BE quenched?
What everyone has commented is a VALID QUESTION and appropriate REACTION to such a horrif loss of a young life, however what about reserving judgment before we are ready to CAST THE FIRST STONE?
I know the Family intimately and cann assure you that this has shocked many of us who know this otherwise sound and sober family.

As for the allegations of ABUSE on a mentally disabled child… is absurd since Jason was not diagnosed with such a condition. In fact the family has an older 16 yr old son who in fact has been diagnosed with such a condition and yet he has grown and learns daily and does amazingly well in PUBLIC SCHOOL and has thrived which is contrary to the absolute ridiculous claims made by some bloggers.

The public can RANT and COMMENT until they are blue in the face but the reality is that until you meet such a devoted FAMILY and close FAMILY who have simply met their GOALS in their CHURCH LIFE, PERSONAL LIFE, and their Family Goals. It is therefore almost MOOT to even allow those who know them to attempt and explain who this Family truly is. It is a FACT that the MEDIA has a place in our society for which I respect.

I only am having trouble understanding why the community has no heart in understanding that there was a tragic loss and the facts surrounding how this happened are UNEXPLAINABLE, NON-UNDERSTANDABLE, and SIMPLY NO EXCUSE nor any comment Stan, his wife or any child can say to JUSTIFY such a HORRIFIC ACCIDENT for which they must live with for their entire LIFE.
They will forever suffer not only the loss of Jason but the DOUBTS of what could have been done differently. They will torture themselves by repeatedly asking themselves “if I would only have done this different…”

They are experiences grief and guilt like NO OTHER PERSON in this COMMUNITY can understand unless you have gone through a loss of a young child.

I have even heard of ridiculous allegations of Insurance Money motives and other absurd motives for this tragedy. I cannot imagine or pretend to know their pain, however as a close family friend and confidant I have for long periods spoken with them.

I am amazed at the lack of simple decency some individuals lack by wishing death upon them and the constant threats and rebuke that have been placed upon them by a community with no heart. Where is the trust for the POLICE? CPS? and other agencies for which WE ELECT and place in office and then TURN ON THEM if THESE AGENCIES do not respond in a manner that “WE” believe to be justice.
I am therefore grateful for those individuals that are in the position of investigation and who have the SAY in the best interest of these children because I have witnessed from Law Enforcement, CPS, and Child haven representatives to be Gentle, empathetic, and kind to this family even as they perform their jobs.

I am grateful that it is NOT THE PUBLIC who makes such decisions because based on the INSTANT ANGER AND HATE demonstrated on blogs and commentaries it does prove that as a community we have a long way to go in understanding one another and learing to live in this great valley in harmony.

I am grateful that those on here who have made such horrible remarks are not in places or positions of leadership or decision making because there is clearly NO EVIDENCE OF compassion.

Justice is something that must be served and will not be ignored however what about MERCY? can they both be served at the same time? I know that punishment has already been served to the RIMER FAMILY in the form of the loss of their sweet youngest baby JASON. What other Justice can be served upon them? What other punishment would rebuke their error of judgment any worse? What punishment would serve to help Jason? or the remainding children?

Is this then simply a need to quench the blood demand of a Public who blindly not knowing the greatness of this family is asking for their heads?

I am truly grateful for the scales of justice and what juris prudence represent and pray that the Judge in these matters can be blessed to serve both JUSTICE AND MERCY upon this family.

-Family friend

Comment by Michael — June 11, 2008 @ 2:39 pm

shame on them and more so shame on there “church” for making lying excuses for them instead of loving them in truth and helping them face the reality and truth of there home and family, in love and mercy. The church people should encourage them to get help and offer to take in there children in the interim instead of doing a “quick fix” clean up so they can get there kids back and go back to there version of “clean” enablers, they are as guilty as the parents.
mr rimer has a lot of “business’” and ironically one is as the publisher of lds family life magazine
excuses!http://www.ldsfamilylife.com/

Comment by kim — June 11, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

Its sad for little boy and his parents know better and NO EXAUSED!!! I feel bad for little innocent boy that his parents seem dont like him or want him so why they seem let him alone in car for 17 hours its really sick!!!!

Comment by Lisa — June 11, 2008 @ 3:38 pm

To Michael at 2:39 pm, Dude, put the pipe down.

Comment by D Jones — June 11, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

Michael…..all their good parenting in the past didn’t save their son Jason. He died alone and neglected. The parents and siblings are suffering now, but it was little Jason who suffered, forgotten and alone in that car. They could have been the best parents in the world for the previous 20 years, and for the next 20 years, but it doesn’t undo the 17 hours Jason was left in the car. They need to accept responsibility for their failure, and not be sidestepping the truth, with excuses, and trying to share the blame with the other kids.

Comment by ChrisC — June 11, 2008 @ 7:14 pm

Why bother having child protective services? They take children away from parents who do not abuse their kids but keep kids with those parents that truly are abusing and neglecting them. These people need to be punished in the harshest, painful, most evil way possible. I have no feelings for people like these who clearly have kids just to add more money on their welfare card or maybe a few more dollars on their tax returns. Fix them like you would a frigging dog. They will come before God one day and truly know the meaning of the word misery.

Comment by Elly Rizzo — June 11, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

Michael, you’ve made every excuse in the book for two individuals who neglected their duties as parents and allowed their child to die a slow agonizing death. To make the situation worse the next day the father goes out to set up a trust fund? These people are not the ones you described, no matter how many false couter accusations you’ve made. I sleep fine at night feeling what I do as a parent at the disgust in the actions/inactions of your two friends, do you?

Comment by Frank — June 11, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

Misconception, assumption, lack of imformation, quick draw judgement, predjudice, leads to igonorance of comments, reaction and action. These are the ways of the Klu-Klux-Klan,”burn them on the cross in the name of Jesus Christ, most of you say” or maybe accuse them of witches burn them at the stake,like Joan of Arc. I have read at least 4 google pages of news reports,to gather as much imformation about this tragedy. What is amazing,is, because this is in your own comfortzone of a neighborhood,it is easy to take BRIEFINGS of news reports and set up the gillatine, because you want to see blood, for your anger instead of having compassion for even the other CHILDREN IN THE FAMILY WHO LOST THEIR BROTHER. It is a good way to vent your own daily life pressures, especially as things have become worse in this time era. And don’t forget to say how much holyier than thou, You the “I AM” are. In one religious background or another,who are we to judge, with out being inside of the family or investigation. I have read and psychoanalyzed each comment and almost everyone compares themselves and their own life scenerios and experiences, with their slack of comments, protesting your own inhumanity. How many of you have lost a loved one? How many of you know this family? How many of you walked by their side for at least a week.Or how many of you have stood up for other local community concerns, like starvation, the homeless, child pronography, child prostitution. Even world wide concerns,like child exploitatation of inhumane labor and conditions that puts children to death for exhaustion and desease. Forced child prostitution, and wars that have murdered hundreds of thousands of children, and mothers.How many of you have stood up for children that are starving, beyond your little comfort zone in front of your television set or computer. What have any of you done to make a difference in others lives to help the needy outside your little home, even in your own community. How many of you have been unfairly judged? Walk your talk.Let those who are chosen, in the system, by the grace of God to be able to make just decisions for the entire family. This family needs guidance and counseling in this urgent time of crisis from the system

Comment by Brenda Romero — June 11, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

WTF!!How do you lose track of a child for over 17 hours!!! If my three year old is out of my sight for a few minutes,I look for her to make sure she is safe. Contrary to this sick dysfunctional family I tuck my little one in bed every night with a bedtime story. And to the church, STOP enabling and making excuses for this sick family. May the parents burn in HELL

Comment by Carla — June 11, 2008 @ 8:11 pm

I don’t understand how they could forget about a four year old for seventeen hours. CPS was right to remove the rest of the kids. There is no excuse for this. These parents need to be punished for this.

Comment by Joanne — June 11, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

My heart goes out to the parents, and to all the parents who have lost a child this way. This happens several times in the summer every year in Las Vegas, all over the country really. I am not on these parents jury - I will not judge them, but I will put them in my prayers!

Comment by Laurie — June 11, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

I think Michael the family friend is a perfect example of whats wrong with this family. Besides the fact that
his greatest concern is for the living eagle scouts who did not even know there baby brother was missing for 17 hours? People are outraged because this is so odd and this does not add up. a four year old suffered and died needlessly and no one even cared enough to notice he was gone at bedtime? Your anger is pointed in the wrong direction. Its sad when strangers are more outraged than people who knew the baby. watch cypher in the snow Michael its an old lds film about a boy no one cared about and he just died one day.
when you have a child maybe you will understand why we are so upset. And we don’t want there head on a stick, locking them in a hot car for 17 hours will do just fine for me.

Comment by kim — June 12, 2008 @ 1:07 am

I can (very slightly) understand if someone was defending leaving their child in the car for a few minutes in the middle of the summer. But you cannot defend 17 hours! This child was not in a car seat……right? Did I hear that wrong? So either he was driven around the day before without being strapped in, or someone had to unstrap him when they got home………..RIGHT? This poor, poor baby! I CRY and CRY just thinking about it. My teenagers CRY, and CRY. We have all ages, babies thru teens in this house and they are ALWAYS ACCOUNTED FOR…..MY HEART ACHES FOR THIS BABY. By the way just think about this…..what if he was abducted? How far away could he have gone in 17 hours? We might be accused of being judgemental, I am speaking up because if I (we) don’t this will be forgotten, or swept under the rug. Lets not forget this people, never forget this!

Comment by Rachel — June 12, 2008 @ 2:16 am

As a faithful member of the LDS church and a Primary teacher, I find it very sad that not ONE member of this family missed Jason during family prayers. Sunday is a day of rest, the Sabbath! I cannot believe they were “so busy” they did not notice he was missing. Unfortunately, this sweet Child of God, has paid the ultimate price for his parents’ laziness. How can a child found after this length of time be declared an “accident?” It makes me sick that they can use the church, running children back and forth to meetings, etc. and hide behind being “good members” as an excuse. I am glad they are not in my ward family, I certainly could not and would not give them mercy. My sympathy and prayers remain with Jason, who was taken from this world way too soon.

Comment by LV Member — June 12, 2008 @ 2:54 am

Yes, Deidre - so important that he didn’t even know he was missing for 17 HOURS - if that’s how he cares for the ‘important’ people in his life I’d hate to see how he cares for others. Give me a break! This is unforgivable and these 2 people (hesitate to even call them ‘parents’) should be charged with murder or at the very least negligent homicide! And I hope they don’t get the rest of the kids back either.

Comment by Nancy — June 12, 2008 @ 5:24 am

Laurie - save your sympathies for the children - these people aren’t fit to be called ‘parents’. PARENTS don’t lose track of their children for 17 HOURS. As usual there will be people with mis-placed sympathies.

Comment by Nancy — June 12, 2008 @ 5:25 am

Michael, put the wacky weed down, quit deluding yourself - GOOD PARENTS don’t forget about their child for 17 hrs no matter what YOU say. Reminds me of some people I used to know - had 6 kids left to fend for themselves while ‘mom and dad’ (gag) ran around for this ‘organization’ and that ‘organization’ receiving all kinds of accolades from these organizations for all their ‘good works’. I wonder what these organizations would have REALLY thought of them had they know their 6 kids were left alone day after day, night after night, many times with nothing but 2 cans of tomato soup to divide between 6 kids - yep, that was their nutritious ‘dinner’ while good ole’ mom/dad were busy helping others. People like this and Jason’s sperm/egg donors make me sick.

Comment by Nancy — June 12, 2008 @ 5:34 am

This whole story makes me sick and I look at my own 4 year old and wonder how anyone can ‘lose track’ of a child for that long.

I also find it interesting that Stan Rimer still finds time in his grieving to login to his myspace page.

http://www.myspace.com/treehouseproduction

Comment by Annie — June 12, 2008 @ 6:35 am

There’s some stinky fish going on there.

You cannot forget your child - and for 17 hours, through family meal times, bath, bedtime. How do you put even 1 other child to bed without realizing that you are missing a child ?

I mean - I only have 3 kids, but I’m constantly checking to make sure that they are all accounted for - at home and out.

Comment by Eliza — June 12, 2008 @ 7:00 am

Michael, what kind of a person would just forget out a child? You say it’s absurd, that Jason didn’t have a medical condition? Why was he in a wheel chair, he could barely walk on his own, he attended an early childhood program. Why is the family and close friends lying? This doesn’t make any sense and even more reason as to why it’s pretty obvious these parents need to face consequences for their ignorance and neglect.

Comment by Gilford — June 12, 2008 @ 7:18 am

i wish to respond to comment 31, michael. ok michael mom and dad were sick . mom never worked a honest day in her life outside the home right? so why o why wasnt the house clean, kids taken care of? i mean thats her job right? come on michael your name means on the right side of god. does god want the child not to be taken care of? the mom was being lazy!! face facts. she is not doing her job. i am a catholic and believe in going forth and recreate but omg, how many children that you are not taking care of do you need?> dads not working @ mean we the people are supporting them cause they wanted many children not to take care and keep a clean home. grow up michael and realize these filthy no good folks killed their baby!!! shame on you for thinking otherwise. many honest hardworking women have many babies nurture them , love them , and make sure they are not gone for17 hours. if i was the 19 year old i would hate my parents for blaming me when THEY were just too lazy to do what they are supposed to do . PARENT!!!!! i hope their church says WOW !!!! they goe to church and go to bed !!! WHERE DID WE GO WRONG? they dont know spit!!!!!michael feel free to email me willsonmegan@yahoo.com you know im right think how that boy suffered and then sleep tonite……..

Comment by megan willson — June 12, 2008 @ 7:33 am

call for mercy? Mercy :a request from one person to another to be shown such leniency or unwarranted compassion for a crime or wrongdoing.

I think this is the key, the rimers are not able to collect mercy from God who gives free mercy or the public who are subject to our flesh and emotion, but can be compelled to have mercy.
Why not, well they have to ask for mercy to receive it, and they are not taking responsibility for what happened, just blaming there older children. If they want mercy or compassion a great place to start would be to take responsibility. In my case I think that is in part why I am so outraged. for the Rimer supporters I say what about the children who lost there brother,
does it bother you that the parents are putting the blame on them? Jason is gone but you could at least not enable them to further damage the living children.

A good place to start: Love the Rimers in truth and help them know you are there for them, but help them see that they must take responsibility and you will be there with them through it.
I know its out of hand, and I feel for them but for the grace of God any one could leave a child in a car from even a short time in a moment of confusion. I say the outrage is that they had no clue for 17 hours, a sign that they where very disconnected to there children. If you love the Rimers help them through it in an honest way.
Kim

Comment by kim — June 12, 2008 @ 8:43 am

I think it is a crying shame that anyone would not take 10 seconds to look for any family member if they have not been seen for even a half hour. Jason I beleive is in a much better place and will be protected for eternity.

Comment by DC — June 12, 2008 @ 8:45 am

One other thought just came to me, I raised 2 boys by myself and worked 3 jobs. I always knew where my boys were, fed them, ate with them, read to them every night and LOVED them and kept a spotless house. I am still wondering how this person kept a filthy house and unfed children?? People should only have children if they can devote at least eighteen years to raise and love them as GOD wanted us to do so.

Comment by DC — June 12, 2008 @ 8:58 am

Oh, wait. Maybe there is one “winner” here. Their church will now be able to say something like, “Hey look. Have more kids yet, especially if they are boys, because if you forget a few here and there and they die…well, hey…just have more…but try to leave one window on your car open just a crack, just in case you forget one in the car and try to put the cap on a little tighter on the Drano. You know how boys are….always wanting to explore.”

Comment by John — June 11, 2008 @ 6:48 am

You are some kind of idiot. Why do you disperse blame from a couple of first class losers to their church? Keep on point or jump off.

Comment by Lee — June 12, 2008 @ 10:29 am

I think everyone who is outraged should e-mail Nancy Grace.

Comment by kim — June 12, 2008 @ 11:07 am

I think you are all terriable for Judging… It is not our place to Judge. This is a tragity for all involved. The Rimer Family is now pulled apart. We can’t even start to imagine what they are going though. Public comment should not be allowed. How would all of you feel if this was a memeber of your family all of these comments where made about!
Let them Be… You are all horriable…!! Do you have nothing better to do then to run down people that are already going though the hardest time in their life!!!

Comment by Kcj — June 12, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

“You are some kind of idiot. Why do you disperse blame from a couple of first class losers to their church? Keep on point or jump off.

Comment by Lee — June 12, 2008″

Well, Lee, the “point” does seem to be related in some perverted way to the religious affiliation of the parents. Take a long look the the web site for magazine and especially the movies written, directed and produced by Mr. Rimer. (Be sure to click on “Talent” and check out his movies. Wouldn’t you be proud of your dad making movies called, “Little Boo Peep-Baby Doll,” “Kid Norman the Terrible,” and “Kindergarten Mobster?” This is one very weird man. )

Everyone needs to take a look at his Web site and particularly the women who have left him messages on his MySpace link. Something tells me the the women shown there are not good, upstanding members of Mr. Rimer’s church.

The site is:

http://www.ldsfamilylife.com/

Comment by John — June 12, 2008 @ 3:42 pm

I think you are all terriable for Judging… It is not our place to Judge.Comment by Kcj — June 12, 2008

yes we are horrible people to be outraged at these poor victims. how dare we care enough to be outraged, after all family’s are forever and this will be a great talk in relief society one day plus they have 8 others sons so what are we upset about. Its better than one should perish than a family have to remember they are missing a kid.
When I loose sleep its not over the unrepentant parents
and what they are going through or the inattentive bishop who did not cut some slack and maybe pull back some callings for this obviously over spent family, and not the home teacher who stands and mis leads the public on there behalf but its thinking of the last hours of Jason’s life spent alone and helpless with no food in his belly after a 3 hour block of church I am betting he was hungry.
and kjc, you are judging us, so maybe you should be an example and try to have mercy and understanding for our community as we morn the loss of Jason Rimer.
I guess we will all see the truth when Stan Rimer makes a b-movie about his side of the story and then
about how its not his fault his kids did not tell him there brother was missing.
Feed your children tonight and think of Jason and imagine him out in the hot car while you eat and your family eats and laughs and lives 17 hours of there lives without a thought of this baby.

Comment by kim — June 12, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

Why not change the law so parents WILL be prosecuted. As it goes the state falls short because of the malicious intent clause. Lets change the law so prosecuti9n can happen.

Comment by noelle — June 12, 2008 @ 5:56 pm

“I guess we will all see the truth when Stan Rimer makes a b-movie about his side of the story and then
about how its not his fault his kids did not tell him there brother was missing.

Feed your children tonight and think of Jason and imagine him out in the hot car while you eat and your family eats and laughs and lives 17 hours of there lives without a thought of this baby.

Comment by kim”

Amen, Kim.

Comment by John — June 12, 2008 @ 9:09 pm

Well again I am simply unable to restrain from responding to the further ridiculous allegations of those reading my comments as GOOD SAMARITAN and who now assume it is written by the Rimers.
You fools, they are neither reading nor interested in wasting time to read what those of you who are heartless and clearly unaware of the facts… have to say.

I am a close friend of the family and regardless that I have clarified that JASON is not a MENTAL NEEDS child and that he has NEVER been diagnosed as such, you again read into what you want to and selectively ignore the remainder statement I have written.

Those who have commented against my statement have additionally easily dismissed the facts, as I have stated them. Which clearly leads me to believe and reinforce that people are reacting from ANGER only.

I also further argue that others have made absolutely ignorant comments of how his children’s successes are solely earned by his children alone, with no encouragement, support, or even pushing?
Let me assure you that last time I checked the average child wants to do “their” own thing and would clearly include NEVER GOING TO SCHOOL, nor homework, nor any of the lawfully required boring things that prepre a young child to succeed in their Future.

How can you even argue such an obvious reality with Nevada falling as the SECOND most DROP OUT STATE of high school kids.

Again, my comments serve nothing if not to only reach those who are more highly educated and can use reason before making rash decisions. I can additionally assure you that while you may want to continue to ASSume, as to the true author of these statements, you would be surprised that it is beyond his ability to write such statements from a guy that cannot even think straight nor focus from the pain and anguish that all the family is feeling right now. I guess in your ASSumption he is sitting around puppeteering a campaign of “all poeple should love me”? ABSURD!

I can only honestly attest that in fact if you did some google searching you MIGHT find that I have placed same comments on other sites which require at minimum my first name for which you can discover my identity.

and to those of you who, I yet again, manage to BAIT you into responding please attempt to write your “attack” without the use of the phrase “I DONT CARE IF THEY…” and you will realize that your absurd comments based solely on hatred are clearly ignoring the FACTS as I stated them and as they WILL BE FURTHER available as soon as the STATE allows this to occur because of gag orders.

For example… there is one particular ridiculous allegation by the AUTHOR of this site who states there is previous CPS history but yet in order to cause the masses to be angered (and possibly increase his HIT count), he conveniently decided to OMIT the fact that they were all unsubstantiated. The only one substantiated…. was in 1988 for an injury that was sustained by one of their children which was REFERRED to CPS by the attending E.R. as prescribed by NRS. (this means nevada laws)

and in that incident (you must be educated in the LINGO of CPS to even understand) it was unsubstantiated. “SUBSTANTIATED” what does that honestly mean? I will not attempt to explain this meaning to save me time in typing as well as your time in reading this.

ALL THAT MATTERS is that NO ACTION was EVER TAKEN! no arrest, no removal of the children, no fine, no order for parenting classes… NO NOTHING!

simply substantiated…. people! as in the injury was investigated and it was substantiated that the child suffered the injury as stated by the family and case closed!

So UNDERSTAND that again those ignorant among you who choose to again skip over my comments… feel free after all it is your right, however do yourself a favor and try to not write “I DONT CARE THAT THEY…” because of course short of GOD assumably coming down from the heavens and offering you an explanation… you will not accept it.

because of simply the fact that YOU DONT CARE! you only will JUDGE HIM, and his family for this horrific accident and will refuse to take into consideration the obvious EXPLANATIONS! which are not meant to be serve as “EXCUSES”!

AFTER ALL ISNT 80% of all comments asking “HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?”, you maybe are only asking rhetorically then… Hmmm

And yet some of the bloggers cannot comprehend a small bit of technology that is called “EDITING” for which you can again conviniently do not take into consideration and only are willing to beleive Mr. Rimer is the 2008 Charles Manson.

After all the last time I checked the News Media is not in the business of reporting the Good and Happy news of the world, but rather the tragedies and negatives of the world. So I guess the times the Rimer parents having accepted FULL responsibility have somehow never seemed to make on the air… Hmmm?

I know from having spent hours and hours talking to them and consoling them, that your angry opinions are PROPER because you lack the complete picture.

I know for an absolute FACT that the SPOKEPERSON of the FAMILY has repeatedly in many interviews offered the families feeling of GUILT and BLAME upon themselves WHICH INCLUDED Mr. RIMER!(refer to “editing”) and please understand that the MEDIA 20 sec sound bites do not seem to portray the entire story but you have a right to feel how you do and it is none the less curious that most if not all comments, ask HOW? and WHY?
and I beleive that attempting to provide those inquiring minds with a more full picture of the family, You have used it to only dismiss it and attack further which as previsouly stated is futile.

-FAMILY FRIEND
aka GOOD SAMARITAN
aka GUY WITH A CONSCIOUS
aka TRUE FRIEND
aka LOYAL NEIGHBOR
aka PERSON WHO HAS A HEART
aka PERSON WHO FORGIVES THOSE THAT OFFEND ME
aka PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN GREATER SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY
aka PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS I AM NOT ON THIS WORLD TO PASS JUDGMENT ON OTHERS
aka PERSON WHO LIVES IN A GLASS HOUSE
aka PERSON WHO REALIZES THAT NO MATTER WHAT JUSTICE IS SERVED, IT WONT APPEASE THE MASSES

Comment by Michael — June 13, 2008 @ 3:00 pm

I knew Mrs.Rymer she used to come into my work! Her car is very dented and she never talked or had a smile on her face, you can always tell she was on some kind of drugs or pills the way she acted. She was always stumbling and really slow at everything. One time she even drove off with her doors of the excursion open. I think the mother just needs HELP.

Comment by Mandy — June 13, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

For angry frustrated Michael. Justice and mercy make up your mind. Since they are innocent then they need no mercy and justice will due. Mercy is a term used to describe the leniency or compassion shown by one person to another, or a request from one person to another to be shown such leniency or unwarranted compassion for a crime or wrongdoing.
Just behavior; a concern for genuine respect and treatment which is to be regarded as fair and equal.

Justice would be a death for a death Mercy would be to not serve due justice and have mercy.
The Rimers claim no responsibility, but lay blame on others. Thats the problem you seem to be ignoring that white elephant.

In your view they don’t need unwarranted compassion since there “good works’” have earned them the right to allow for the death of another human being.

Mr. Rimer has multiple myspace pages, and he seems to be a man divided. He seems to me to have a secret life. I dont blame him because no one could live up to what you and your church family seem to expect of Mr. Rimer to be all that you think he is. Why cant you see the truth and have compassion for him and love for him and free him of his secret life. No one is perfect. you say we have missed the point but I think if you
have missed the point. Yes the public does not know all the facts, but the facts we do know are pretty pathetic. Yes compassion is called for and I believe that if I may speak for “the mob” its the reaction to the response given by the Rimer family along with the multiple my space site that are out for the public that reflect a very different Stan Rimer than perhaps you know. Its the concern for the lives of the living children. Yes you feel defensive of your friends, but the public is just as outraged on there behalf.
From this side it looks like the Rimers are blaming there 19 year old son on the death of there child.
Perhaps that is a misconception but Mr. Rimer is the one who said from day one.
MAybe you could give a little and give the public the bennefit of the doubt.
I hope that the Rimers will loose the ward and find the Lord who loves us as we are, in our sin and expects not “works” from us in exchange for forgiveness and peace.

If you did not know the Rimer family and just from what you have seen what would you think?

Be Blessed Michael and Good luck in life, you may one day understand why and even appreciate the outrage and concern we have for this family especially the living children.

Comment by kim — June 13, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

Just a question–is everyone in Nevada as illiterate as the people commenting on this site seem to be? I have never read as many ungrammatical and misspelled comments as are posted here. For example, there is a difference between their, there, and they’re which seems to have escaped some posters. This site underlines misspellings so couldn’t some attempt be made to at least correct spelling before posting?
Please proofread so that your postings can be understood.
On another note, yes this story does seem fishy and I would like a real word on the child’s disability or lack thereof. Not noticing that a four year old is missing for seventeen hours seems unbelievable whether disabled or not. Blaming a sibling for not noticing the missing child is unconscionable.

Comment by Malinda — June 14, 2008 @ 5:36 am

judging them? yes, anyone that hasn’t left a special needs child in a car to FRY for seventeen hours IS in a position to judge them. i judge them as murderers & hope they see the inside of a prison where Bubba & Bubbette make them their very “special friends”. they were ok to go to church but too sick (read:stoned, hungover, lazy) to care for their kids. yeah, they are guilty as sin.

Comment by mary — June 14, 2008 @ 3:58 pm

Dont worry about how people SPELL. Thats not what this story is about.
Its about UNFIT “PARENTS”.Not knowing where your child is for 17 hours in unbeliveable!

Comment by Amber — June 14, 2008 @ 9:09 pm

Still no excuse for the death of this child. I don’t care what the parent had going on in their lives. Busy or not busy, job or no job. There are children involved and they come first !
I’m sorry “mommy and daddy” YOU screwed UP! You don’t deserves to have the children back. You should be in jail for “MURDER”. You guys make me sick to even think of wanting the other kids back. Why? so you can forget about them! I think NOT!
God Bless this little one, now we know he’s in a better place.

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I don’t understand how someone can forget their kid that’s in the back seat of a car. That is a horrible situation. Can we judge the parents of being anything other than forgetful? It seems like it’s happening more and more in the past few years, all across the country. Kids locked in cars, kids locked in trunks, kids found in swimming pools, etc. Will the horror ever end?? Kids are so precious, so innocent, and when your mind is so cluttered with things that you can’t remember that your kid is in the car, not to mention he’s there 17 straight hours, then you need some counseling. Plus, they say that the house looks like a train wreck, and sometimes the kids weren’t fed. What kind of work does Stan Rimer do where he can’t afford to feed his kids? These are church going people? It’s a sin to do anything harmful to a child, the Bible says. I think that not feeding your kids is a sin. Anyway, it’s a senseless tragedy that will happen time and time again across the country, no doubt.

Comment by Ricky — June 16, 2008 @ 12:02 pm

Michael said: “So I guess the times the Rimer parents having accepted FULL responsibility have somehow never seemed to make on the air… Hmmm?”

How is pleading not guilty accepting “full responsibility”?

Comment by GB — June 16, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

The family’s lawyer stated:

“Absolutely excited, they love their children so they want to see them as soon as possible,” said the parents’ attorney, Ismael Santellan.

(me) Too bad they didn’t love their children enough to check on them instead of finding out that poor baby was stuck in the family car for 17 hours. The parents can throw around every excuse in the books but bottom line is that they murdered their little boy. When you’re a parent you are under obligation to watch out for your children. You have to know where they are every minute of every day.

Comment by Robin Anne — June 16, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

Taking a look at his myspace page and this guy is one sick puppy - a FAR CRY from what I would think a good, practicing MORMON would be all about. His page seems to be loaded with skanky pictures of women who look no better than a common whore - I hope the Nevada District Attorney takes a good look at the page too - it might perhaps help to dispel this myth about him being such a religious- god fearing man. I think he’s a pervert and his myspace seems to back up my suspicions. And for all the spelling teachers out here I hope I didn’t make too many mistakes (notice the correct use of the word ‘too’)

Comment by Nancy — June 16, 2008 @ 12:29 pm

Hey Micheal if his man loved his children and his family so much why doesnt his my space page have any family pictures? You know most people that have a my space and have kids all over their page and when some one passes away they have a little profile on that person. I really dont feel the family is taking the blame but more like point the finger at the 19 year old who should have been watching him.

Comment by Maria — June 16, 2008 @ 1:46 pm

Loose track of your child for 17 hours….. are you KIDDING ME???????? Ok… I can understand life is busy and we all loose track of time, it gets away from us…… but to LOOSE track of your child for 17 HOURS???
Those parents need to pay the the FULLEST extent of the law…. especially since they have a history with CPS… come on! I have 2 girls and as busy as mommys are …. I could NEVER EVER EVER loose track of them, SICK OR NOT! This is just a VERY sad story and my heart goes out to the minor kids.

Comment by Shelby — June 16, 2008 @ 3:28 pm

Maria…
Is there a requirement for MYSPACE to be ONLY family oriented self created sites? Can they not be personal? can they be business based? Just asking since I didnt understand your rhetorical question.

Kim…
WOW! Very powerful and educated comment. I appreciate your comments and please understand that regardless that I know the family and have been previewed to the facts of the case, I am also human and have feelings and opinions. I have questions myself and doubts myself as anyone would be expected to. I cannot however seem to process the absurdity of the some comments from people and online which show pure ignorance.
Kim, I assure you personally that the families comments of alleged “blame” were exploited repeatedly because it makes for interesting RADIO and TV. However the repeated comments made to media about their guilt and anguish for ACCEPTING they are to blame is somehow missed. In FACT REFER TO CHANNEL 8 VIDEO reports where the Reporter Melissa Duran, states she actually spoke with the parents who did not want to be on camera. http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=2577903&h1=Family%20Explains%20Following%20Child%27s%20Death%20in%20Car&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=131467&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=11598887
ironically she says FIRST at how the couple felt. and she states “HOW ANGRY THEY ARE AT THEMSELVES”
It is clear evidence of their admission in the public news media but again it is either skipped over, edited, or not reported.
However in the Rimers attempt to offer up explanation… The radio interview was placed on NEWS with ONLY sound bites and not the entire message and it was horrifically interpreted as Mr. Rimer blaming others.
So it is my opinion that they are angry at themselves, they feel guilty, they have accepted complete responsibility, and are working with all investigators and CPS. The attorneys I beleive are court appointed but not really sure since it is wierd that they would hire two (2) attorneys.
But regardless Kin, I think your comments do help understand that I am not their JUDGE or JURY and I can only stand as a witness in their behalf of bieng good people. I cannot tell you what is in their hearts but I can say that I am my brothers keeper and in a community who is all attacking them and wishing death upon them, they deserve a friend and people who pray for them.

GB….
Your comment about GUILTY? are you serious? again you listen to what you want to in the media snippets and make such absurd comments. They have NEVER TO DATE proclaimed innocent nor guilt at any court hearing but Channel 8 reported they are scheduled FRIDAY to return to PLEA “if there are charges filed”.
the ATTORNEYS made statements to the affect that they are expecting possible charges but have no information. so all I can say… “please keep your facts right!” before you write a grenade of a statement and then walk away, please listen to the news and not just hear them.

Michael

Comment by Michael — June 16, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

I reviewed the MYSPACE PAGE for Stan Rimer. It says it is a business (production) work site and has over 1000 friends which appear to be the typical Hollywood bimbo types who r probably looking for thier big break and to maybe be included in a movie. I also noted that the site has an option for interested ppl who can apply for job. so the comment that was written about how wierd this Rimer guy is and his secret 2nd life maybe true or may not be true. I guess is all in how you view it and if you wanna believe he is only looking for talent or not. I think this whole mess is about a poor kid who suffered period. I dont care why or who accepts blame or denies blame. It does not change the poor kid died.

Comment by Jerry — June 16, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

I don’t know how anyone can forget about their child or children. We women carry them for 9months. But I still can’t understand,are you stupid,on drugs,drunk or an idiot??? Or all of the above??? How about people that don’t watch their kids when they are playing out by the swimming pools. Come on people, you can take your phones outside with you when you are watching the kids. There is no excuse for any child drowning in any pool. When my children were little,(10yrs.apart)I was always watching them and keeping them in eyesight and earshot. There is no excuse on this earth why this little boy was left in that SUV for 17 hours without anyone not missing him.My friend is a member of the LDS church and she said she always watched her children and knew where they were.

Comment by Judy Redding — June 16, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

Several years ago a high school teacher left his young child in his car and the little one died from the heat. This man like all others that leave a child in a car are just plain stupid. I don’t need a “Teddy Bear” next to me to remond me that my child is in the back seat! Bottom line is, our district attorney needs to step forward and prosecute the Rimers for manslaughter and whatever other laws they can throw against them. Maybe then the other states would take notice and prosecute as well, otherwise you can just strap your kid in the backseat and let it bake! Aren’t we supposed to love these little ones and be their caretakers?

Comment by Chuck McCoy — June 16, 2008 @ 9:54 pm

Michael-”I cannot however seem to process the absurdity of the some comments from people and online which show pure ignorance” The ingnorance and facts are not knowing where your four year old child is for 17 hours. But, who cares what anyone thinks or what their opinions are. One day they will meet the God they love. It won’t be pretty.

Comment by Carla — June 16, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

Hey Michael, where are the rest of their friends and family? Why are they not defending the parents as you are? You seem to be the main one defending them. The same way you have your opinion, so do we (the rest of the world) whether it be what you think is right or wrong or whether it be what you want to hear or not. No matter what you say, we are entitled to our opinion. The fact of the matter is; there was a 4 year old child left in an SUV for 17 hours. Regardless of what any of us say, think, or do- the parent’s have to answer to a higher person. He is the only one who can judge them. We can only write and think what should happen or be done to them. I do have a question, I heard on the news that the children’s aunt and uncle were cleared to be able to have the children released to them, but the judge refused to release them and will decide on Friday. What is wrong with that picture? Also, why would you only want to reach out to those who are only more highly educated? Even those of us that are more highly educated than others have our own opinions according to the facts that have been exposed to us. We like have feelings and the situation angers all of us. This situation is happening more often than any of us would like. We all need to be more careful when it comes to our children (after all they are our future)because we love them and need to protect them as much as possible. I hope and pray that justice is served whether it be by the court or by GOD!

Comment by Cindy — June 17, 2008 @ 9:31 am

OOPS!! The sentence is suppose to read,We like others have feelings and the situation angers all or us.

Comment by Cindy — June 17, 2008 @ 11:18 am

Parents, just about everyday the news channels announce not to leave your children or animals in a hot car. It takes only a few minutes before they die. I can only imagine what was running through that baby’s mind, not being able to breath or swallow (no saliva in his mouth). What a horrible death. 17 hours left in a hot vehicle, what is wrong with this picture? I come from a family of 16 and when one of us was missing for a few minutes my mom, dad, sisters, and brothers were looking for us. Both of our parents who tuck us in bed and give us each a kiss good night (while they counted us to make sure we were all in our beds) those were parents with loving and caring and who were concerned about the whereabouts of their children. I’m sorry but the Rimers can lie to everybody, but God knows the truth. It’s really sad that this father had the nerve to try to put the blame on one of the children. CPS also needs to be investigated. They have placed children with abusive and irresponsible people, given children back to parents who don’t deserve them because of drugs, alchol, neglect, abuse, and all other types of bad things. I know because I use to work for an elementary school and saw first hand what some children suffer through because they are given back to those type of parents. I had to call CPS on one certain child 4 different times for child abuse and everytime he was given back to his parents. They return the children back into these situations until one is beaten so badly that they are sacared for life, have broken bones, broken hearts or worst of all lose their life.

Comment by Frances — June 18, 2008 @ 6:04 am

The parents should be put to jail. What kind of sick, twisted individuals will not even be concerned that the kid has been missing for 17 hours? Did they ever tuck the boy in at night? How revolting it is knowing that people like those “parents” exist in our community.

Comment by Sara — June 18, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

No, not jail. They should suffer 100 times more than the kid.

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Pingback by Local Las Vegas >> Nellis-Sunrise » I-Team: Second Neglect Case Found Against Family — June 19, 2008 @ 8:50 pm

Please….enough with the religious stuff. Just because this family is LDS doesn’t mean they are a good family! Not knowing where you child is for 17 hours! That’s absurd! And come to find out, now, this is not the first abuse case against this family. This family should not get their children back. Something needs to be done about the neglect on these innocent young lives. People need to be liable here. not just a slap on the wrist. Come on people, WAKE UP and smell the coffee.

Comment by Susan — June 20, 2008 @ 5:43 am

I like Sandra’s comment is death “substantial” enough?
DFS/CPS hasn’t changed. The county commissioners keep slapping them on the back telling them what a good job they are doing “on paper”. It is all smoke and mirrors and this case is the tip of the iceberg. This agency puts appearance ahead of child safety and its got to stop.

Comment by Donna — June 20, 2008 @ 6:54 am

I can’t believe a few people justify this by calling it an accident! Then to go on and try to convince people these are good parents! Also, a few people suggest this is how ALL people in Vegas live! ALL RIDICULOUS COMMENTS!!!!

The child wasn’t looked for to EAT, BATHE, PLAY with, TALK with, KISS, HUG, or anything!!!!!

My question, were the parents drug tested right away?

I really feel for their other children. I desperately hope the minors are put in foster care while the parents face time in prison.

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I agree with all of those who wonder how any parent, no matter how sick, tired, or busy, cannot notice that one of their precious ones is missing for 17 hours. I am a teacher who is responsible for 28-36 children all day. I know within 10 minutes or less if a child has not returned from an errand,or is not in line after lunch and an immediate school-wide “search” is instituted. I have 3 cats who use the cat door to go in and out, and I panic if I don’t see them at least 3 or 4 times a day! I have been known to search the neighborhood at midnight and stay up the rest of the night until I see the wanderer! What possible excuse can any parent have for not hugging, kissing, feeding, nurturing a child of ANY age and ANY mental competency for such a length of time????? I don’t give two hoots for what someone’s religion is, or how many “good works” they have done, or how many “wonderful” children they have raised! The fact is that this poor child was neglected and abused and murdered… no matter what spin you try to use.

Comment by Gail — June 20, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

Dear Michael

It doesnt matter he was on his my space after he left his child in the car adding people on as his friends as for you I have this to say you can hide what really happen but I pray to GOD that him and his wife get jail time and that I have the honor to sit on the jury…..but I know that GOD is the only one who can forgive us and I really don’t think they will see their son in the gates of heaven….in my eyes Im happy to see that the other child didnt go back to their parents THANK YOU LAS VEGAS FAMILY COURT!!!!!!

Comment by Maria — June 20, 2008 @ 1:55 pm

This continues to sadden me. This little poor had extreme special needs; he needed a stroller/wheelchair to get on and off the school bus. He attended an Early Childhood Special Education class at a local Elementary School here in CCSD. Why is the family lying and saying he had NO SPECIAL NEEDS? If I am correct, aren’t the kids in a special education class receiving special needs? Why are the parents lying? Why hasn’t any of this come up in the media yet? Someone needs to speak up for JASON instead of having the “family spokesperson” lie to the entire country. These parents need to be charged; something needs to happen.

Comment by Gilford — June 20, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

Eleven complaints to CPS? I have raised my children and never had one complaint of course. How many of you out there ever had a complaint against you much less 11 complaints? Of course they should now be given back their 4 children and they should go to trial.
The mormon church is irresponsible in defending these folks. the mormon church should not be going into a home and cleaning it for someone either. These people should not be parents and now the courts have to make sure they never are again.
Press charges Rogers!

Comment by Judy — June 20, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

If these parents really were great parents then why do they have so many encounters with CPS? Also, if they were such great and responsible parents why were they not even curious as to where their 4 year old child was for 17 hours? Giving the responsibility to other children to watch the 4 year old for those 17 hours does not show them as good parents. Leaving food on the counter for the children to eat as they want does not show a good and responsible parent. Not taking the time out of their day to even check on the children does not show them as good and responsible parents. But I do think it is now time they took responsibility for this lack of judgement that took a small child’s life. This was not a tragic accident but something that could have been prevented if they would have just taken a few minutes to ascertain where the child was. Having a large family is no excuse for not taking that time. I agree that charges should be filed against both parents and they should do prison time. Maybe that will wake up other parents that don’t want to take responsibility for their children.

Comment by Brenda — June 20, 2008 @ 4:00 pm

All over this country several children die from being left in cars, by both parents. I have never heard of either parents doing jail time. Has anyone else wondered just how many of these deaths are really accidents? 17 hours is a long time for a 4 year old not to be seen or heard. I heard the Father said in a interview that it was one of the older children’s responsibility to look after Jason,what a guilt trip to lay on those kids. The Mormon Church is supporting these people as good parents, just goes to say “you don’t know what goes on behind closed doors”.

Comment by Karen — June 20, 2008 @ 6:03 pm

I have known the family, and held back posting on here until I saw someone else also post about Mrs. Rimer. Now I don’t feel so bad in by assesment of the family. The house was ALWAYS a filthy, disorganized mess with dishes so high you could NOT see out of the Kitchen window. It smelled, and was just gross. The kids were unruly with no discipline or structure. Mrs. Rimer never really spoke or made eye contact and her head was always down. Mr. Rimer was controlling and had a temper to the point I have personally witnessed him threatening someone.

Years later, we were unfortunate enough to end up in their Ward. And poor Mrs.Rimer NEVER looked happy She was always in worn or even dirty clothes, with her hair matted and not brushed in the back. Again you never really saw her smile or interact with anyone. She was just not a happy woman, and anyone who saw her would say that. I actually feel bad for her. Something in that house is not right. She looks and feels dominated by a man that even I did not trust. He is just not a very warm, friendly gentleman. He never put me at ease, if anything it was the extreme opposite.

As for the children, my heart breaks for them. But I can’t help thinking that Child Haven is probably a better enviroment for them right now. I pray they get the counseling they so desperately need, and that in time they can find a loving, solid placement with a family member or a foster home- together.

And for sweet baby Jason, I am so sorry… so sorry you were not shown the love and due respect your little life deserved. So terribly sad you were just “forgotten”….

I, myself, am a member of the LDS church, please do not hold it against the church as a whole. They, like everyone, else can not be held responsibile for the decisions two individuals have made. We all have free agency… it’s just how we chose to use it that counts. And for anyone who wishes to blast me, also know that I am a mother of NINE children myself. That ALL live at home. And I have never forgotten one, left one behind, etc…. I always know where my children are and what they are doing.

Peace be with the family, and the friends too that are suffering.

Comment by An old acquaintance of the family — June 20, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

How very sad that parents forget their children for 17 hours in a hot car. Don’t give me excuses that the parents were busy or didn’t feel good. I’m sorry, those are excuses. The parents need to take responsibility for their actions (or should I say for not taking action). People who steal to feed their families go to jail and these parents are out walking the streets? I’m sorry there is definitely something wrong with this picture. I life has been taken. I do not consider this an accident. This is utter lack of responsibility and the parents need to be punished. People treat their animals better. I also agree that the parents are not thinking about their other children by saying it was one of the older kid’s responsibility to be watching the little guy. This parents just need to admit they screwed up and face the punishment.

Comment by Karen — June 21, 2008 @ 3:40 pm

I KNOW THIS IS A VERY VERY VERY SAD STORY , THE PARENTS ARE TO BLAME BUT I DONT THINK THE LITTLE BOY JASON WOULD LIKE HIS PARENTS TO BE TALKED ABOUT SO BADLY I AM SURE JASON LOVED MOM , DAD , SIBLINGS SO OUT OF RESPECT FOR JASON LETS QUIT BAD MOUTHING MOM , DAD. THANK YOU.

Comment by sherry — June 22, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

Let it be known to all through out the world.
Jasons Rimers death, left and forgotten at the Rimers family home in side one of thier suvs parked out side in the driveway located in Las Vegas NV for 17 hours in the desert heat makes me feel very
sadden and concerned over all this? There is much more to this case then the media has released.
Before I will make any kind of personal judgement about
the Rimer parents over thier childs death, I am going to look into and find out as much of the case findings and facts that I can find and get ahold of, besides already what I know about Stan Rimer from current bussiness dealigs and
some about his personal and his family life. I can personally say that, Yes the out come from all this good or bad will have an affect on Stan Rimers personal life and bussiness future regarding as to his A or B movies an old saying goes out in the hollywood bussiness when it comes to children this abuse and or negelect can not and will not ever be aloud. Hollywood will most likely black ball Stan Rimer if
he is charged, found guilty and convicted! Stan Rimer
has been warned in the past several times about keeping his personal and bussiness private clean from any dirt from getting out the media and it appears that a old saying that Stan Rimer has opened up several cans of worms, the media can make you or break you! I can only say that already investors looking at several projects to fund to talent and crew are upset and now studio contacts over the news of Jason Rimer death is now affecting movie projects Stan Rimer has bussiness interest in, and now is affectting my other bussiness dealings from his personal and family life and future.
I am not a mormon, yet I know and meet several other mormon families large and small and they all have very good morals with high standards and all are family people and keep thier families clean and thier homes. I can say that many catholics are sadden and upset over this news throughout all over America.
I can say many catholics prayers go out to Little Jason Rimer and all of his brothers and sister and all the rest of the family.
email your names and contacts info to be put on the list to send hollywood your message. I will have a press meeting with the media and the public in the future. email Rimer case to vegasdapperdon@yahoo.com
Marc

Comment by marc — June 24, 2008 @ 2:56 am

When I first read the story I thought i may have misunderstood what I was reading. I read it again and was without words, just extreme anger. As I lay down on my pillow with my 19 month old son next to me i began to cry and wonder how on earth does not one but two parents along with 5 other children not recognize that their child/sibling is not present. I then began to think of what Jason went through. I prayed he was sleeping when they exited the car and he remained asleep through his death. A child who has been said had special needs would need to be fed, nutured, bathed, tucked in. A church going family? would they not pray with their children at bedtime?
Would it be a crime to lock mom in the same vehicle for 17hours, to let her expereince what her baby went through, then do the same to daddy and let him experience what his little baby boy went through.
These parents should not be able to live in society amongst normal human beings. i don’t care what was going on that day, or how sick they were, or how confusing it was for them having 6 children.. They had 6 children and each and everyone of those children deserve love, nurturing, attention, food, water, and a constant eye. That is our responsibilty as parents to care for our children, not just bring them into the world adn have them fetch for themselves. When we have children it is no longer about us it is about them.
there are 2 parents there with 5 other children no one but no one noticed Jason was not there. Mom, Dad, Mental ward is where you need to be becasue obviously you are not sane. I don’t feel sorry for you at all I feel sorry for your children and i hope by the grace of God your other offspring will be placed in homes where there are loving parents worthy of having an innocent child in their presence.. Disgusting is what you are! Dad do yourself a favor lock yourself in the car for 17 hours. Mom get a grip!

Comment by Myra — June 25, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

Comment by Michael — June 13, 2008 @ 3:00 pm

Mark, clearly you care for these folks. Silence the noise, special needs, no special needs, mistake, oversight, what difference does it make, bottom line the facts are very simple:
1) a little boy was left in a car for 17 hours.
2) Boy died
3)addy and Mommy are sad, realize they made a mistake and are sorry.
5) boy still dead.
and you were saying????? hmm mommy and daddy need to go to parenting classes and by the grace of God stop having children.
I go back to: put them in the same truck for 17 hours seperately and let them see what they did. Yes what they did!!!

Comment by Myra — June 25, 2008 @ 12:51 pm

The Riners will now get their 15 minutes of fame and hopefully 15 years in prison where they belong. Unfortuntately, this is one for the history books. And at least now the 4 children are in protective services. These are sick, sick, sick people. We can only hope the surviving children have any chance of a decent life.

Comment by Rhia — June 25, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

It’s stories like this that keep Nancy Grace working overtime.

Comment by Cass — June 25, 2008 @ 2:57 pm

I think that is wonderful that they got arrested. I am a mother my self and I wonder what my 1 yr old daughter is doing if I don’t hear or see for about 5 minutes. How could this have happened? The whole situation is crazy… I am thankful that the parents got in trouble for it thought. Justice was served! =)

Comment by Jennifer B — June 25, 2008 @ 3:13 pm

I certainly hope they get more than 15 years. They deserve to die the same way as Jason!

Comment by Diane — June 25, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

This is so sad it makes you sick.How could anyone forget about their child for 17 hours,it is just horrilble. This people do not need custody of any of their children, they are not capable of being parents.Lock them in their car and forget them,
Darla

Comment by Darla — June 25, 2008 @ 3:31 pm

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Pingback by Local Las Vegas >> Nellis-Sunrise » Parents Arrested For Son’s Death in SUV — June 25, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

“I know the Family intimately and cann assure you that this has shocked many of us who know this otherwise sound and sober family.”

So the police just arrested them part of which is for the home being disgusting and filthy - where were you good LDS families checking in on this family?????? Is filth and neglect of basic needs of children what you call “sound and sober”????

The Dad is on the news saying the kids just grabbed food for themselves for dinner. WHAT???? You expect a three year old to tend to themselves?? Then the Dad blames the older children - like it was the fault of the older children, not his. Children should not have that responsibility - If you are going to choose to be a parent, eight of them to boot, then parent them!!!

They should rot in jail, and God save those other children.

Comment by Sandra — June 25, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

I have lived across the street from this family for 15yrs. Colleen Rimer was a good Mom and seemed to always know where her kids where. The children were always clean, and there were no “neighborhood incidents” regarding the Rimer family in 15yrs. UNTIL poor Jason got left in the car. Family oversight? or was it his time as a “special needs” child who was autistic, could not walk and barely could talk, never mind let anyone know he was in trouble in a car.
GOD gave this child a short time with a family, and his being here for 4short years was a challenge to all concerned.2nd degree murder? NO way, DA’s office needs to prosecute more real criminals that frequent the other streets in this neighborhood. Rimers have suffered enough. Get the drugs out of this neighborhood. How about the halfway houses with severe drug use and abuse 2blocks away.How about the stoning of cars and nightly fires or loud music.
Get control of the illegals and drugs and utilize our PD to handle more important things like shootings and property abuse.Rimers will suffer enough wait until the real story come out about the children of this family that are also “special needs” kids. GENETICS.
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Comment by dianeh — June 25, 2008 @ 6:38 pm

Yeah … Hope they both get life!
Rot in prison!

Comment by Patricia — June 25, 2008 @ 6:45 pm

I just read the arrest warrant. What a nightmare those children were living. If the situation truly was as described, the Rimer’s are monsters. They are members of a church that is known for supporting and helping members of their church community. Help was there for them if they were overwhelmed. Instead, it seems they retreated to their own room with their bedroom fridge and microwave stocked for their comfort, and left the children to scrabble in the filth for meals and to care for one another as best they could.

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I just finished reading the arrest warrants for both the Rimer parents. It is sad, disgusting, unbelievable and unreal what these poor children had to live through. All the children stated how they were basically the care givers for Jason. I don’t understand what kind of people (calling themselves parents) would leave their children to take care of themselves and eachother while they rested and slept to get ready for the following week. Why did they have to rest, if the house was filthy, the kids had to feed themselves the majority of the time, the dad was not working, and the kids took care of eachother? Seems to me that the so called parents were just lazy. I’m glad and proud the children spoke out. Even the female child that not longer lives at home. Hopefully they will be placed in the care of someone that will take care of them and provide for them the way a real parent would. It angers me so, that the dad would actually punch the children and leave them bruised. It’s too bad that the horrible death of an innocent child would have occur before CPS would remove the other children from the home. So, Michael, do you still think the Rimers are good parents and loved their children? Do you still think it was an accident? Are you still on their side? Although, I still think the Rimers should be made an example of for all those irresponsible people that leave their children in cars. They will get their day in court. I hope and pray that the children will be able to overcome this situation and be able to lead full and productive lives.

Comment by Cindy — June 26, 2008 @ 7:46 am

I hope those parents are treated just as bad in the clink as their children were treated at home. Why have so many kids if it pisses you off? That baby is in a much better place now, and so are there other living kids.

Comment by AMBER — June 26, 2008 @ 7:50 am

I too read the arrest warrant, I know there is people who want to believe otherwise but read it for yourself. It’s obvious those children were not taken care of, they were on there own. Maybe Mr. Rimber said he cared for his children but for his children to be afraid of him because he punched them, come on. Your still going to sit there and say they loved his family, please! There is no excuse for a filthy house. I have children and work and my house may not be spotless everyday but darn close. And who keeps food in there bedroom from their children? I my reservations when I first read this story but now reading the arrest warrany, I’m sorry but these people were just unfit parents.
HOWEVER I THINK CPS SHARE SOME BLAME BECAUSE TO HAVE SO MANY REPORTS AND TO NOT FOLLOW UP??? People are afraid to discipline their children because of CPS but then you have people like the Rimers that have had several contact with CPS and nothing?? What’s wrong the system. THE ‘LAW’ AS WELL HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THINKING OF CHARGING PARENTS WHO LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN IN CARS AS CRIMINAL. I am sorry but it is impossible to forget a child, you might be too lazy and CHOSE not to anything but you DO NOT FORGET A CHILD, IMPOSSIBLE. I don’t care how routine or hectic you life may be, IMPOSSIBLE!

Comment by SE — June 26, 2008 @ 8:18 am

When will the time come that CPS actually does their job, fully? How many chances should a parent get to abuse their child/children before they are protected by the entity that gets paid to do so. We have a very, very flawed system and CPS is only one of the many areas in need of a massive overhaul. How many more kids have to go through this for our “officials” to do what they get paid to do??

Comment by Elizabeth — June 26, 2008 @ 8:24 am

So Michael, what no answers to the arrest report? Its kind of funny that you see in black and white that the children where scared of their father. But yet you said he has a good father? Lets see, a good father that hits his children with paint sticks or a paddle called “THE TIGER”, also the children stated that he would punch them or kick them with steel toe boots as a part of punishment oh yea I guess this father show be named Father of the year for all the love he showed his children. Its funny how the kids said that the mother always made sure that some one took care od Jason but not on this day or how she want the children to look for him but she didnt help them. Or how the mother called 311 instead of 911 when she found her child. Come on Michael wake up and realize this children need more care than they were receiving at home.MAY GOD AND JASON WATCH OVER HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS…..One more note may THE RIMERS rot in prison and be example to other parents who dont know how to care for their children one day the law will catch up with you. Michael may GOD open your eyes and show you that these people were not GOOD PARENTS…. I am happy that the children spoke up and told some one about the verbal abuse they would receive from their father….

Comment by Maria — June 26, 2008 @ 8:24 am

To #110 dianeh

Thanks for reminding us that there are more than two ignorant self absorbed individuals on the earth.

Comment by Sherry — June 26, 2008 @ 10:25 am

I just read the comment posted by DIANEH on 6/25 at 6:38 p.m…and I say to you: ARE YOU BRAINDEAD??? How can a reasonable human being think that is was just Jason’s time? I am about as sickened by her comments as I am about everything that has gone on with this case. Stan and Colleen are not only criminals, they are among the WORST kind. Neglect of children is a horrific crime. If their other children had been special needs children, they too had the chance of suffering a horrific death. The other childrn, thankfully lived thru conditions most can not even conceive of. (I had to take a break from reading the arrest warrant because it just sickens me). We are still waiting the Coroner’s report. I personally believe more will be revealed then. I have questioned all along whether or not he was actually placed in the SUV as a diversion….I hope I’m wrong…but I sure wonder. Either way, the Rimer’s need to pay the price and I hope it is a lifetime! To DIANEH - you need to wake up and smell the coffee!! As much as you would like to see good in these people, you cannot argue with the facts. As for the police doing their job-I say good work! They need to take care of all the other crimes mentioned by DIANEH, but my first priority is taking care of children!

Comment by Lynn — June 26, 2008 @ 10:39 am

Also I am not the Sherry who posted #99. To me the way to honor Jason is to show how important his life was and what was done to him was unacceptable. Period.

Comment by Sherry — June 26, 2008 @ 10:47 am

I am so glad the Las Vegas Law Enforcement waited and did all the right things, regardless of how bad Vegas was being trashed. Because they did their job, these parents are not able to fall through the legal cracks, well, we hope not anyway. I hope the siblings of Jason NEVER blame themselves. I, along with all of you, was outraged hearing Stan blame the kids for not noticing Jason was missing. Those children were not the ones who gave birth, nor were any of them the sperm donor. We need to pray the children are safe and will have great care from here on out, and that the memories do not haunt them for the rest of their lives.

Comment by Macee — June 26, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

in reading some of the other comments on here, i dont understand how people in other states blame the people that live here in las vegas. there are bad apples everywhere. this is a terrible story and obviously they knew what was going on and had to have done it on purpose. i believe i heard that one of their other kids found the boy dead. that sick and sad. that kid will live with that forever. unfortunately this happens a lot, just because its not always for 17 hours does not mean its not equally as terrible. people need to stop being lazy parents and take care of their kids. why have kids if your going to just kill them? i think everyone who kills their kids, no matter how it is done, should suffer the same way. our government needs to get over the “liberal” thinking and take care of business. they only do it because they all know they will get away with it.

Comment by jan — June 26, 2008 @ 2:55 pm

metro needs an ataboy..they knew this kid was killed and died a long, slow, horrible death..they crossed their t’s and dotted the i’s and charged these pigs with 2nd degree murder………….too bad they couldn’t just take them into the desert..lock them in a car and leave them for 17 hrs..this gonzalez guy, the spokesman for these two said this could have happened to anyone……….not..mr. gonzalez, let them baby sit for your kids……..

Comment by mel — June 26, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

“How about the stoning of cars and nightly fires or loud music.
Get control of the illegals and drugs and utilize our PD to handle more important things like shootings and property abuse” - posted by Dianeh on 6/25

YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! Loud music and ‘more important things like .. property abuse” THAT’S more important to you than the death MURDER of a child??? God help all the children living in your neighborhood.

Comment by Sandra — June 26, 2008 @ 8:19 pm

GEEEEEEZ!! THIS IS SOOOO SAD!!! REST IN PEACE LITTLE JASON . MAY THE LORD HAVE SOME MERCY ON YOUR PARENTS.. WOW YOU THINK YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR ????

Comment by DENISE — June 26, 2008 @ 11:01 pm

this is in reference to dianeh, YOU are sick, I know the Rimers very well and they are filthy, the kids always wore dirty clothes went bare foot. Maybe you need to look closer at the reports. Yes murder needs to stick, along with all the other charges. Don’t say you know them. Get a life.

Comment by jjc — June 27, 2008 @ 7:30 am

Thank goodness these parents are to be held accountable for the endangerment and murder of this young boy. In addition are there others who should be held accountable? Extensive contact with CPS?? Our child protective system should also be held accountable, the conditions described in the criminal complaint did not occur in 17 hours, but could not be determined in 23 reports. How were the detectives able to ascertain that there was a problem in this home in a matter of hours of interviewing the children and parents. What happened to follow up by CPS? Why do we accept parents who do not allow their to children to speak with CPS, parents who are uncooperative with CPS, who fail to follow through when counseling is set as a requirement, to continue to be maintain unsupervised custody of a household of children. Someone was aware enough to let CPS know on more than one occasion. I also have had “extensive” contact with CPS, and have witnessed the lack of desire to step outside the job description to protect the children. The “law” “excessive paperwork” and the “work overload” is only an excuse. At this time, somewhere in this valley is a young women, who although a judge has decided that she is unfit and unable to maintain parental right over three minor children, CPS has, by their actions, determined that the two children which she gave birth to during their investigation, are somehow not being neglected, unfed, and/or put in the same dangerous arena’s, as the other seven children to whom she gave birth. I pray daily that one of these children does not end up being the next Jason.

What about this family’s Home Teacher, Mrs. Rime’s visiting teachers, the primary teachers, the young men and women’s teachers, the Bishop and/or his Counselors? If living according to God’s plan, they were in the home, they were speaking with these children, and they were also entrusted by One greater than CPS to care for this family. No intervention short of removing this young child may have been able to save him, because the parents were so self absorbed. There are times that we as brothers and sisters, children of God, must have the courage to look beyond the surface, recognize when a man, under the guise of “head of house” is unable to make wise decisions for his family. That when a woman, who is taught that the priesthood is the family leader, must put her children before him if he is unable or unwilling to fulfill his duties as head of house. And if she in unable to recognize this, we must step outside our own comfort zone and intervene. With enough intervention, the other children could have received guidance, and counseling, and been given the ability to recognize that what was happening was unhealthy and the co