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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3254</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vengar Operated on me he inplanet a neurostimulator i don't think he ever did put it in the correct place to this day it just sits in my back doing nothing.
He testified in my industrial case and I lost Thanks rite?????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vengar Operated on me he inplanet a neurostimulator i don&#8217;t think he ever did put it in the correct place to this day it just sits in my back doing nothing.<br />
He testified in my industrial case and I lost Thanks rite?????????</p>
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		<title>By: Witness</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3253</link>
		<dc:creator>Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a witness for the prosecution, can't I.D. myself and can't be specific, of course. I'll call this all my opinion, which the law entitles me to. Let me just say that there is MUCH evidence of the many many of schemes, payoffs and celebrations re: the payoffs, and there are cooperating eye witnesses to so many illegal activities, as well as to witness tampering and coaching. It will all come out sooner or later, but you who think ANY of the named doctors and lawyers are 'innocent' are in for a really rude awakening. Awand is a pathological liar, a user and a fraud to such a huge extent that none of you can imagine,as is Vannah, his BIGGEST partner in crime.  Do NOT waste time and energy defending any of them. You just have NO idea how heinous this all really is. Wait until you hear what's to be made public when the various trials continue. There isn't ONE of the people suspected who wasn't involved to my knowledge. Let's HOPE that the remaining trials can proceed fairly. There were several JUDGES involved in this whole ring as well.

For the sake of all who can't afford medical insurance due to precisely these kinds of abuses theft, greed and fraud,let's HOPE there is eventual justice.

See ya in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a witness for the prosecution, can&#8217;t I.D. myself and can&#8217;t be specific, of course. I&#8217;ll call this all my opinion, which the law entitles me to. Let me just say that there is MUCH evidence of the many many of schemes, payoffs and celebrations re: the payoffs, and there are cooperating eye witnesses to so many illegal activities, as well as to witness tampering and coaching. It will all come out sooner or later, but you who think ANY of the named doctors and lawyers are &#8216;innocent&#8217; are in for a really rude awakening. Awand is a pathological liar, a user and a fraud to such a huge extent that none of you can imagine,as is Vannah, his BIGGEST partner in crime.  Do NOT waste time and energy defending any of them. You just have NO idea how heinous this all really is. Wait until you hear what&#8217;s to be made public when the various trials continue. There isn&#8217;t ONE of the people suspected who wasn&#8217;t involved to my knowledge. Let&#8217;s HOPE that the remaining trials can proceed fairly. There were several JUDGES involved in this whole ring as well.</p>
<p>For the sake of all who can&#8217;t afford medical insurance due to precisely these kinds of abuses theft, greed and fraud,let&#8217;s HOPE there is eventual justice.</p>
<p>See ya in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Metz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Metz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally know someone affected by Dr. Venger.  He installed an unapproved device in my best friend in 2003, when he did not do the prescribed surgery.  In 2007, he had to re-operated and fractured the device (actually there are 2 of them and he fractured both) and left them in her.  She did not find out what he had done until June 2008 when she saw her medical records.  He also falsified her medical records, even going so far as to say she was in a car accident (never happened) to give a reason for her continuing and progressively worsening medical problems.  

She is unable to find an attorney to represent her and the statute of limitations is quickly running out.

Elizabeth Metz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally know someone affected by Dr. Venger.  He installed an unapproved device in my best friend in 2003, when he did not do the prescribed surgery.  In 2007, he had to re-operated and fractured the device (actually there are 2 of them and he fractured both) and left them in her.  She did not find out what he had done until June 2008 when she saw her medical records.  He also falsified her medical records, even going so far as to say she was in a car accident (never happened) to give a reason for her continuing and progressively worsening medical problems.  </p>
<p>She is unable to find an attorney to represent her and the statute of limitations is quickly running out.</p>
<p>Elizabeth Metz</p>
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		<title>By: edwin p parker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3227</link>
		<dc:creator>edwin p parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTK was a leader in his local congregation. He used the church's computer which eventually exposed him. He worked in security, too, where he got leads to his victims. His wife and daughter didn't recognize the devils living in him. 
 Judicial immunity, based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature, destroyed our Third Branch. Americans, by and large, do not trust our judicial system, (or they just haven't experienced it for themselves.) 
 The very test of judicial efficacy, according to them, is deep and abiding faith in the integrity of our system of Justice on the part of the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTK was a leader in his local congregation. He used the church&#8217;s computer which eventually exposed him. He worked in security, too, where he got leads to his victims. His wife and daughter didn&#8217;t recognize the devils living in him.<br />
 Judicial immunity, based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature, destroyed our Third Branch. Americans, by and large, do not trust our judicial system, (or they just haven&#8217;t experienced it for themselves.)<br />
 The very test of judicial efficacy, according to them, is deep and abiding faith in the integrity of our system of Justice on the part of the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberley Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3166</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberley Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3166</guid>
		<description>I had the misfortune of being abused by Howard Awand in different circumstances. 

He and his big haired vicious wife met me on the plane to Stowe, Vermont - where I was moving at the time and didn't know a soul yet. I had hoped to set up a nice place for myself and daughter. Little did I know what was in store for me at their crazy hands!

He phoned one day and asked if I could type. 'Can I!" I said, and on the spot he hired me to take dictation and help him with emails. He and his wife were both there during the offer, and they assured me I was doing them a great big favor because she was going to be so busy setting up their new house and had done that work for him up til then.

Well, within less than two months, after I'd been yelled at, locked in a dark room with five dogs all day every day, instructed to do nothing, forbidden use of the internet or phones for personal calls, they came home from a trip and accused me of all kinds of insane (untrue) things and fired me on the spot. 

I'd done nothing wrong, and had just rented a house I could not at all afford without the salary they'd promised me. I spent the following year heating our home by cranking the oven and leaving it open (because we didn't have to pay for propane) while feeding my daughter Ramen as I worked two jobs just to pay the rent.

In the beginning they claimed they were going to look after us and talked of college funds for my daughter as they tramped all over our new town bragging about all the benevolent things they'd done for so many people.

Yeah right. He fired me because his wife got jealous and no other reason. That soul-less, insensitive, unprovoked act took years to recover from financially and emotionally. It traumatized my daughter and I and cost me a year of hard labor, and both of us a frigid cold, hungry winter.

But after reading all of this, all I can say is I got off easy! At least I'm not paralyzed.

That man is the devil, and his wife is a hound from hell. I hope they do go to jail. I can't think of anyone since OJ and the Bushies that deserve it more than them.

Here's hoping the justice system works this time!
Go karma!
KHT
p.s. if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the misfortune of being abused by Howard Awand in different circumstances. </p>
<p>He and his big haired vicious wife met me on the plane to Stowe, Vermont - where I was moving at the time and didn&#8217;t know a soul yet. I had hoped to set up a nice place for myself and daughter. Little did I know what was in store for me at their crazy hands!</p>
<p>He phoned one day and asked if I could type. &#8216;Can I!&#8221; I said, and on the spot he hired me to take dictation and help him with emails. He and his wife were both there during the offer, and they assured me I was doing them a great big favor because she was going to be so busy setting up their new house and had done that work for him up til then.</p>
<p>Well, within less than two months, after I&#8217;d been yelled at, locked in a dark room with five dogs all day every day, instructed to do nothing, forbidden use of the internet or phones for personal calls, they came home from a trip and accused me of all kinds of insane (untrue) things and fired me on the spot. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d done nothing wrong, and had just rented a house I could not at all afford without the salary they&#8217;d promised me. I spent the following year heating our home by cranking the oven and leaving it open (because we didn&#8217;t have to pay for propane) while feeding my daughter Ramen as I worked two jobs just to pay the rent.</p>
<p>In the beginning they claimed they were going to look after us and talked of college funds for my daughter as they tramped all over our new town bragging about all the benevolent things they&#8217;d done for so many people.</p>
<p>Yeah right. He fired me because his wife got jealous and no other reason. That soul-less, insensitive, unprovoked act took years to recover from financially and emotionally. It traumatized my daughter and I and cost me a year of hard labor, and both of us a frigid cold, hungry winter.</p>
<p>But after reading all of this, all I can say is I got off easy! At least I&#8217;m not paralyzed.</p>
<p>That man is the devil, and his wife is a hound from hell. I hope they do go to jail. I can&#8217;t think of anyone since OJ and the Bushies that deserve it more than them.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping the justice system works this time!<br />
Go karma!<br />
KHT<br />
p.s. if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!</p>
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		<title>By: Norma</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3164</link>
		<dc:creator>Norma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are all of Dr. Thalgott's patients to assume that we did not need spinal surgery we had it so they could make money?  We took of work and some of us had our empoyer be upset about that, take of for surgery you sure, that is another story, but for our insurance to pay and us to pay the out off pocket due which was alot when I really didn't need the surgery tell me it isn't so please. I had spinal surgery done and did not need it, I just couldn't stand to havemore stress in my life because of lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are all of Dr. Thalgott&#8217;s patients to assume that we did not need spinal surgery we had it so they could make money?  We took of work and some of us had our empoyer be upset about that, take of for surgery you sure, that is another story, but for our insurance to pay and us to pay the out off pocket due which was alot when I really didn&#8217;t need the surgery tell me it isn&#8217;t so please. I had spinal surgery done and did not need it, I just couldn&#8217;t stand to havemore stress in my life because of lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56 Did Kabins refer you to someone for a surgical procedure/test to determine how damaged your disks were?  And do you feel that something bad happended during the produre. It happened to me. 

The needs to be a class actions suit against Kabins and the rest of them in on Medical/Insurance scam. Please call the FBI and US Attorneys office and tell them about you case and tell them there are many others. GOD HELP US TO SHINE THE LIGHT AND COME TOGETHER AGINST THOSE WHO HAVE DEVALUED OUR HUMAN LIVES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56 Did Kabins refer you to someone for a surgical procedure/test to determine how damaged your disks were?  And do you feel that something bad happended during the produre. It happened to me. </p>
<p>The needs to be a class actions suit against Kabins and the rest of them in on Medical/Insurance scam. Please call the FBI and US Attorneys office and tell them about you case and tell them there are many others. GOD HELP US TO SHINE THE LIGHT AND COME TOGETHER AGINST THOSE WHO HAVE DEVALUED OUR HUMAN LIVES.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3145</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should look into their UNSAFE MEDICAL PRACTICES for using contaminated anesthesia vials and needles. Thereby, causing Hepitatis B and C, additional HIV, AIDS, etc. 

Why? The answer is; If they are greedy enough spin an insurance claim where their clients end up permanently injured, brain dead, paralyzed, die sooner or end up dead. Then why spend extra money to give you new vial of anestesia during an unecessary surgical procedure, or surgery.

Remember not to sign a MEDICAL LIEN! A medical lien is where your doctor agrees to be paid after your claim or lawsuit is settled. Those without HEALTH INSURANCE appear to be PRIME TARGETS along with cases or claims involving LARGE INSURANCE POLICIES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should look into their UNSAFE MEDICAL PRACTICES for using contaminated anesthesia vials and needles. Thereby, causing Hepitatis B and C, additional HIV, AIDS, etc. </p>
<p>Why? The answer is; If they are greedy enough spin an insurance claim where their clients end up permanently injured, brain dead, paralyzed, die sooner or end up dead. Then why spend extra money to give you new vial of anestesia during an unecessary surgical procedure, or surgery.</p>
<p>Remember not to sign a MEDICAL LIEN! A medical lien is where your doctor agrees to be paid after your claim or lawsuit is settled. Those without HEALTH INSURANCE appear to be PRIME TARGETS along with cases or claims involving LARGE INSURANCE POLICIES!</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's be clear: Part of the scam your ATTORNEY getting you to sign a MEDICAL LIEN. This is were your doctor agrees to be paid after you case is settled and charges you an inflated rate.  They do this to people WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE and in cases where there is a large amount of insurance money, like an auto insurance co. or Hospital. Once you sign the MEDICAL LIEN you give have given them licsence to build and spin your case anyway the need to get that insurance money. The more insurance money there is the more aggressive and greedy they become. This means: they can permanetly injure, leave you or even kill you depending on how much insurance money their is.  Some should look them for UNSAFE MEDICAL PRACTICES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear: Part of the scam your ATTORNEY getting you to sign a MEDICAL LIEN. This is were your doctor agrees to be paid after you case is settled and charges you an inflated rate.  They do this to people WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE and in cases where there is a large amount of insurance money, like an auto insurance co. or Hospital. Once you sign the MEDICAL LIEN you give have given them licsence to build and spin your case anyway the need to get that insurance money. The more insurance money there is the more aggressive and greedy they become. This means: they can permanetly injure, leave you or even kill you depending on how much insurance money their is.  Some should look them for UNSAFE MEDICAL PRACTICES</p>
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		<title>By: One who really knows</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2008/02/19/conspiracy-fraud-trial-of-lawyer/#comment-3131</link>
		<dc:creator>One who really knows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59 and #60, well done, Bravo!!!!  You and you legal team got away with it this time.  Don't think you're out of the woods.  If anything "Mr Gage and Associates," I hope you will be more ethical in your future practices. 

As far as George Knapp...please do not under estimate his expert invesitgation skills.

Mr Gage and legal team, thank you for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59 and #60, well done, Bravo!!!!  You and you legal team got away with it this time.  Don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re out of the woods.  If anything &#8220;Mr Gage and Associates,&#8221; I hope you will be more ethical in your future practices. </p>
<p>As far as George Knapp&#8230;please do not under estimate his expert invesitgation skills.</p>
<p>Mr Gage and legal team, thank you for your comments!</p>
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