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]]> By: Mika Koponen http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1122 Mika Koponen Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:27:51 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1122 I red many of the comments and noticed that there is some misunderstanding in the water issue. Water is being recycled in the valley. It comes from Lake Mead, goes back there, comes back to the Valley again, and so on and so on. All water that ends up in Las Vegas Wash will end up in Lake Mead. Unless, of course, it evaporates. Yes, we cannot regulate the growth in the Valley, it seems. With that said, it seems only too ghostly evident how similar the situation in Vegas is to the subprime loan market that is now hurting the local home owners. We are growing at any cost and at any rate. We are growing, even though we do not have the resources to grow. Remember from subprime: we were selling, even when we were not supposed to sell. Clearly unethical. Like subprime issues, this issue with water is turning into an issue how we are trying to keep capitalism alive and well, businesses alive and owners and investors happy with hefty returns. Ironically though, if Las Vegas does not grow, we cannot generate all those low paying jobs, that only generate income that barely passes the minimum wage level. Who are we fooling? In my books that is not worth the trouble! I am certain we have grown past the population capacity that we can sustain meaningful living in the Valley. We are living in the desert and changing environment. The global warming is reality. The climate is not going to get any wetter anytime soon. The climate has already gotten drier in many other places in the globe. We are dealing with an issue that is beyond our borders, but starts from our tailpipes! When the water taps run dry, are we going to pay homeowners to vacate? Do we have to start water negotiations with Canada? Like natural gas and oil, maybe we need to start building long pipelines for water. Not possible? It has been done for oil in Alaska and Siberia and natural gas lines criss cross USA from coast to coast. Remember, there was a time when trans continental railroad was only a dream. We have advanced a lot from those days. We will have to make some more of these giant dreams come true for better future. I red many of the comments and noticed that there is some misunderstanding in the water issue. Water is being recycled in the valley. It comes from Lake Mead, goes back there, comes back to the Valley again, and so on and so on. All water that ends up in Las Vegas Wash will end up in Lake Mead. Unless, of course, it evaporates.

Yes, we cannot regulate the growth in the Valley, it seems. With that said, it seems only too ghostly evident how similar the situation in Vegas is to the subprime loan market that is now hurting the local home owners. We are growing at any cost and at any rate. We are growing, even though we do not have the resources to grow. Remember from subprime: we were selling, even when we were not supposed to sell. Clearly unethical. Like subprime issues, this issue with water is turning into an issue how we are trying to keep capitalism alive and well, businesses alive and owners and investors happy with hefty returns. Ironically though, if Las Vegas does not grow, we cannot generate all those low paying jobs, that only generate income that barely passes the minimum wage level. Who are we fooling? In my books that is not worth the trouble!

I am certain we have grown past the population capacity that we can sustain meaningful living in the Valley. We are living in the desert and changing environment. The global warming is reality. The climate is not going to get any wetter anytime soon. The climate has already gotten drier in many other places in the globe. We are dealing with an issue that is beyond our borders, but starts from our tailpipes!

When the water taps run dry, are we going to pay homeowners to vacate? Do we have to start water negotiations with Canada? Like natural gas and oil, maybe we need to start building long pipelines for water. Not possible? It has been done for oil in Alaska and Siberia and natural gas lines criss cross USA from coast to coast. Remember, there was a time when trans continental railroad was only a dream. We have advanced a lot from those days. We will have to make some more of these giant dreams come true for better future.

]]> By: Steve http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1123 Steve Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:08:29 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1123 As a Brit who moved to Las Vegas ten years ago, I was astonished to find just how profligate everybody was with water. Do the schools not teach the meaning of desert anymore? Then I find that the Clark County Commission is in the pockets of the developers (no G-sting needed for that news) and that the answer to development will always be yes. Add to that the fact that the people who should know the water situation and be advising moderation in growth, the SNWA, NEVER object to development plans. Hmm. Then I saw an infamous Channel 8 interview with Pat Mulroy where the interviewer linked growth to our water shortage. For the rest of the interview, Ms Mulroy would not look at the camera nor look the interviewer in the eye. Now there's a clue. Has she and the rest of the SNWA been in the pay of the developers, or was she simply afraid of some high velocity brain surgery if she linked growth and water problems in public? I leave the reader to judge, but I REALLY hope the G-sting gang are reading this blog. In my not so humble opinion, Pat Mulroy and the rest of the SNWA have mismanaged the water in the Las Vegas valley for some time. Their efforts to conserve now are too little, too late. The SNWA should have said "NO" to at least 50% of the development in the last ten years. As for their attempts to steal water from elsewhere, why are they surprised when the owners and users of that water fight back? DOH! Another Channel 8 interview a while back had a developer (Jim Rhodes, I think) stating "We cannot let the single issue of water stifle growth in the Valley." What a crock. What will it take to convince these idiots, people dying from thirst in the streets? The housing market is down the pan anyway, so get on with it and do the right thing; pull the plug on anymore building until stricter savings can be achieved and Lake Mead is at a reasonable level once again. Too simplistic, disastrous for the economy and downright un-American you say. Fine, just call me back when your tap runs dry and we'll talk some more. As a Brit who moved to Las Vegas ten years ago, I was astonished to find just how profligate everybody was with water. Do the schools not teach the meaning of desert anymore? Then I find that the Clark County Commission is in the pockets of the developers (no G-sting needed for that news) and that the answer to development will always be yes. Add to that the fact that the people who should know the water situation and be advising moderation in growth, the SNWA, NEVER object to development plans. Hmm.

Then I saw an infamous Channel 8 interview with Pat Mulroy where the interviewer linked growth to our water shortage. For the rest of the interview, Ms Mulroy would not look at the camera nor look the interviewer in the eye. Now there’s a clue. Has she and the rest of the SNWA been in the pay of the developers, or was she simply afraid of some high velocity brain surgery if she linked growth and water problems in public? I leave the reader to judge, but I REALLY hope the G-sting gang are reading this blog.

In my not so humble opinion, Pat Mulroy and the rest of the SNWA have mismanaged the water in the Las Vegas valley for some time. Their efforts to conserve now are too little, too late. The SNWA should have said “NO” to at least 50% of the development in the last ten years. As for their attempts to steal water from elsewhere, why are they surprised when the owners and users of that water fight back? DOH!

Another Channel 8 interview a while back had a developer (Jim Rhodes, I think) stating “We cannot let the single issue of water stifle growth in the Valley.” What a crock. What will it take to convince these idiots, people dying from thirst in the streets? The housing market is down the pan anyway, so get on with it and do the right thing; pull the plug on anymore building until stricter savings can be achieved and Lake Mead is at a reasonable level once again. Too simplistic, disastrous for the economy and downright un-American you say. Fine, just call me back when your tap runs dry and we’ll talk some more.

]]> By: douglas http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1124 douglas Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:06:53 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1124 quick way to save those endangered chubs... have each human family send one or two children to the soylent green processing facility. one bambino less consuming water oughta save a dozen or more of those threatened fish. quick way to save those endangered chubs… have each human family send one or two children to the soylent green processing facility.

one bambino less consuming water oughta save a dozen or more of those threatened fish.

]]> By: Will Mische http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1125 Will Mische Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:32:45 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1125 What does Las Vegas do with its sanitary and storm waters? With only a limited amount of water, a recycling system of that waste and toilet water could be used over and over again. Las Vegas could collect all of its toilet and waste waters by its sewers and pipe it to a treatment plant and purify it into drinking water for reuse in Las Vegas. You have your source within your grasp, if you treat it properly instead of discarding it and losing it to a river. The sewage treatment plant's effluent should become the major influent supply for your water treatment plant. Astronauts have that system on all of their spacecrafts. The water you drink in the morning could be the water you drink in the evening. Be an example to the rest of the nation and the world, and Las Vegas will be renowned 100 years from now, for solving the water problem. What does Las Vegas do with its sanitary and storm waters?

With only a limited amount of water, a recycling system of that waste and toilet water could be used over and over again.

Las Vegas could collect all of its toilet and waste waters by its sewers and pipe it to a treatment plant and purify it into drinking water for reuse in Las Vegas. You have your source within your grasp, if you treat it properly instead of discarding it and losing it to a river. The sewage treatment plant’s effluent should become the major influent supply for your water treatment plant.

Astronauts have that system on all of their spacecrafts.

The water you drink in the morning could be the water you drink in the evening.

Be an example to the rest of the nation and the world, and Las Vegas will be renowned 100 years from now, for solving the water problem.

]]> By: CAROL http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1126 CAROL Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:03:58 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1126 TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING LAS VEGAS SUCKS STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM US. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN COMING HERE FOR YEARS AND ENJOYING IT BUT NOW YOU TURN ON US LIKE A PACK OF DOGS WELL WE DONT WANT YOU HERE AND WE WILL MAKE IT ON THE WATER WE HAVE. YOU ALL ENJOY YOUR RAIN AND HAIL AND TORNADO OR WHATEVER YOUR STATE HAS WE WILL SURVIVE...WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING LAS VEGAS SUCKS STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM US. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN COMING HERE FOR YEARS AND ENJOYING IT BUT NOW YOU TURN ON US LIKE A PACK OF DOGS WELL WE DONT WANT YOU HERE AND WE WILL MAKE IT ON THE WATER WE HAVE. YOU ALL ENJOY YOUR RAIN AND HAIL AND TORNADO OR WHATEVER YOUR STATE HAS WE WILL SURVIVE…WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT

]]> By: Joe Zharn http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1127 Joe Zharn Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:56:58 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1127 I for one am sick and tired of half baked solutions to serious resource problems. There needs to a Mississippi River Valley Project to collect or relaim flood waters & send that flow across the Midwest as WATER STEPS TO THE DESERT, DEPOSITING THE WATER IN RESAVOIRS FOR HYDOELECTRIC USE, ATOMIC STEAM PRESS & IRRIGATION -- flowing from the Mississippi River Valley to the Colorado River, to the Rio Grand, then naturally to the Gulf of Mexico. A shunt can also be added for Southern California and back to the Gulf. Petty Foggers be darned! I for one am sick and tired of half baked solutions to serious resource problems. There needs to a Mississippi River Valley Project to collect or relaim flood waters & send that flow across the Midwest as WATER STEPS TO THE DESERT, DEPOSITING THE WATER IN RESAVOIRS FOR HYDOELECTRIC USE, ATOMIC STEAM PRESS & IRRIGATION — flowing from the Mississippi River Valley to the Colorado River, to the Rio Grand, then naturally to the Gulf of Mexico. A shunt can also be added for Southern California and back to the Gulf. Petty Foggers be darned!

]]> By: Robert Spriesterbach http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1128 Robert Spriesterbach Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:22:39 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1128 The obvious solution to our water problem is to force EVERYONE to convert to desert landscaping. Steve Wynn's mountain should look like Red Rock. We should also triple the cost of water. We should develop a cadre of citizen vigilantes to secretly report any of their neighbor's infractions and the offenders will have to wear yellow stars on their clothes for identification. Finally we should start another eighty housing developments. When they are all sold, we can come up with even more draconian measures. I'm sure our political "leaders" will go along with this. The obvious solution to our water problem is to force EVERYONE to convert to desert landscaping. Steve Wynn’s mountain should look like Red Rock. We should also triple the cost of water.
We should develop a cadre of citizen vigilantes to secretly report any of their neighbor’s infractions and the offenders will have to wear yellow stars on their clothes for identification.
Finally we should start another eighty housing developments. When they are all sold, we can come up with even more draconian measures. I’m sure our political “leaders” will go along with this.

]]> By: Samina http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1129 Samina Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:16:48 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1129 Why is it so hard for southern nevada to keep up with the population growth and water concerns? I don't see how this problem could have escalated over the years and now that time is running out they are trying to "bully" water from neighboring states. Obviously, it wasn't a priority when they were running the advertisment to conserve water or when they set the watering guidelines that no one follows. So why is it a high priority now? Why is it so hard for southern nevada to keep up with the population growth and water concerns? I don’t see how this problem could have escalated over the years and now that time is running out they are trying to “bully” water from neighboring states. Obviously, it wasn’t a priority when they were running the advertisment to conserve water or when they set the watering guidelines that no one follows. So why is it a high priority now?

]]> By: Loren http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1130 Loren Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:59:33 +0000 http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2007/04/19/clock-is-ticking-on-las-vegas-water-supply/#comment-1130 Why not just shut the outflow of the dam by 20%? California has enough resources to get power from other sites and irrigation water from the ground. The water table in SoCal is NOT that deep, besides, it's no more screwed up than our own ground water. Why not just shut the outflow of the dam by 20%? California has enough resources to get power from other sites and irrigation water from the ground. The water table in SoCal is NOT that deep, besides, it’s no more screwed up than our own ground water.

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