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	<title>Comments on: Water For Las Vegas Valley Could Cost Billions</title>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-2660</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the SNWA wants to waste billions on piping water they don't even know for sure exists so be it. But the SNWA is a public agency and the governor should take a slice of all the money they're making and use it for the state budget. And someone should monitor those ranch purchases in White Pine County because insiders are getting rich at our expense. Every ranch they buy up there should be open to public hunting and fishing since they used public money to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the SNWA wants to waste billions on piping water they don&#8217;t even know for sure exists so be it. But the SNWA is a public agency and the governor should take a slice of all the money they&#8217;re making and use it for the state budget. And someone should monitor those ranch purchases in White Pine County because insiders are getting rich at our expense. Every ranch they buy up there should be open to public hunting and fishing since they used public money to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-1760</guid>
		<description>PEOPLE SAY THAT THE DESAL PLANT WILL TAKE ALOT OF ENERGY TO RUN IF I DO REMEMBER ITS NOT THAT CLOUDY IN SOUTHERN NEVDA IF U ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE MONEY MAYBE THE TWO MONOPOLIES SHOULD TEAM UP AND BUILD A DESAL PLANT HUGE ENOUGH NOT ONLY TO HELP US BUT REPLINISH THE LAKE AND CHARGE A SURCHARGE TO ALL OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING STATES HELL BOTH COMPANIES MAKE BILLIONS A YEAR THEY CAN FRONT THE MONEY FORTHE PLANT NOT ONLY THAT SINCE ITS ALL OFF OF SOLAR ENERGY IT WILL PAY IT SELF OFF IN NO TIME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEOPLE SAY THAT THE DESAL PLANT WILL TAKE ALOT OF ENERGY TO RUN IF I DO REMEMBER ITS NOT THAT CLOUDY IN SOUTHERN NEVDA IF U ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE MONEY MAYBE THE TWO MONOPOLIES SHOULD TEAM UP AND BUILD A DESAL PLANT HUGE ENOUGH NOT ONLY TO HELP US BUT REPLINISH THE LAKE AND CHARGE A SURCHARGE TO ALL OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING STATES HELL BOTH COMPANIES MAKE BILLIONS A YEAR THEY CAN FRONT THE MONEY FORTHE PLANT NOT ONLY THAT SINCE ITS ALL OFF OF SOLAR ENERGY IT WILL PAY IT SELF OFF IN NO TIME.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Griffin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-427</guid>
		<description>Desal plants require HUGE amounts of energy(usually nat gas) and only work on continents that have abundant natural gas resources. Not to mention the energy required to pump it up to Las Vegas.
     The water problem, and especially the peak oil problem(google "peak oil"), will cause mass migrations away from Las Vegas, and the entire sw desert region, starting about last October with me moving out. Just look at uhaul rates that last year this time were cheap to leave Vegas, now they are 3 times higher, especially to the midwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desal plants require HUGE amounts of energy(usually nat gas) and only work on continents that have abundant natural gas resources. Not to mention the energy required to pump it up to Las Vegas.<br />
     The water problem, and especially the peak oil problem(google &#8220;peak oil&#8221;), will cause mass migrations away from Las Vegas, and the entire sw desert region, starting about last October with me moving out. Just look at uhaul rates that last year this time were cheap to leave Vegas, now they are 3 times higher, especially to the midwest.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harvey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-428</guid>
		<description>I believe a better, albeit more expensive solution near-term, would be to utilize desalination plants, strategically located in southern California, and pipe the potable water to Las Vegas.  Utilizing inland ground and surface water is really only a band-aid approach and one which will have an extremely negative impact on the inland ecologies long-term. Unfortunately in this country special interests, working with political entities, tend to disregard the environmental impact of human activities and focus primarily on monetary or other personal gain.  While I am not what one would consider a "tree hugger" I do worry considerably about our environment and feel that we, as a nation and a race, need to consider preservation of our natural resources when planning our growth strategies.  Yes desalination is more expensive near-term but as a citizen of Nevada I am willing to pay the increased cost in order to preserve natural resources.  As citizens of today we must be willing to make such investments in ours and our descendant's futures.  The oceanic water supply  is almost endless relative to human consumption; inland ground and surface water is not.

For anyone interested there is a brief overview of the desalination process, specific to southern California, here;

&lt;a href="http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a better, albeit more expensive solution near-term, would be to utilize desalination plants, strategically located in southern California, and pipe the potable water to Las Vegas.  Utilizing inland ground and surface water is really only a band-aid approach and one which will have an extremely negative impact on the inland ecologies long-term. Unfortunately in this country special interests, working with political entities, tend to disregard the environmental impact of human activities and focus primarily on monetary or other personal gain.  While I am not what one would consider a &#8220;tree hugger&#8221; I do worry considerably about our environment and feel that we, as a nation and a race, need to consider preservation of our natural resources when planning our growth strategies.  Yes desalination is more expensive near-term but as a citizen of Nevada I am willing to pay the increased cost in order to preserve natural resources.  As citizens of today we must be willing to make such investments in ours and our descendant&#8217;s futures.  The oceanic water supply  is almost endless relative to human consumption; inland ground and surface water is not.</p>
<p>For anyone interested there is a brief overview of the desalination process, specific to southern California, here;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-429</guid>
		<description>TO whom ever reads this note* I WAS BORN HERE 54 YEARS AGO. I saw that the snwa wants to remove water from 3/4 states/or n.nv/utah/n.arz. is something is wrong with this why? ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL! the cost is nuts. IS IT NOT CHEAPER TO TAKE FROM THE OCEAN CHEAPER &#38; SMARTER? then we are not taking from people that depend on it. You build a pipe line,pump stations, then DESALT IT, the navy does, you taken the ground water from somewhere else? then where's next! THE OCEAN IS 75% OF THIS PLANET WITH YEARS IN RESEARVE JUST MY NOUGHEN WISHING, THANKS FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO whom ever reads this note* I WAS BORN HERE 54 YEARS AGO. I saw that the snwa wants to remove water from 3/4 states/or n.nv/utah/n.arz. is something is wrong with this why? ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL! the cost is nuts. IS IT NOT CHEAPER TO TAKE FROM THE OCEAN CHEAPER &amp; SMARTER? then we are not taking from people that depend on it. You build a pipe line,pump stations, then DESALT IT, the navy does, you taken the ground water from somewhere else? then where&#8217;s next! THE OCEAN IS 75% OF THIS PLANET WITH YEARS IN RESEARVE JUST MY NOUGHEN WISHING, THANKS FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-430</guid>
		<description>For the eighty-four (84) years since the signing of the Colorado River Compact, complex maneuvers have been on-going which have created mountains of paper, but not a drop of new water for the Colorado River. 
 
Thousands of meetings and millions of dollars have now been spent. 
 
Thorough knowledge of water rights in the arid southwest and strict adherence to the "law of the river" is absolutely essential to solving such a complex puzzle as providing ample new water for the ribbon of fluid so often fought over.  Above all else, the riddle can only be solved if no existing water rights are in the least bit damaged.  Furthermore, no plan is viable without ample protection for the environment and its creatures. 
 
The pages of the struggle for a real "wet water" solution may someday be written, because the marvelous Source has in deed been discovered, analyzed and is ample for the burgeoning populations, industry and recreation.  Secondary return flow use of waters from the Source can restore the estuaries of the Colorado River Delta and Salton Sea.. 
 
Why is it that the entities/agencies which have been empowered to divert, deliver and distribute the water of the Colorado River have not pursued the investigation of such a wonderful resource ?  Have they not been notified of its existence ?   Have they not been assured that the Source is real ?  Of course they have !   Even with a guarantee, they have thus far formulated no way to proceed with analysis and evaluation of the fountain of ample supply.
 
As the meetings convene and players take their seats in the halls of justice and convention centers, let it be known that a real Source solution does indeed physically exist which is legally and economically feasible to develop to provide  a new non-tributary Source of 750,000 acre feet of fresh water each year for the dwindling Colorado River.
 
Have we found in your publication, a messenger who can help deliver to the 25 million who rely on the Colorado River, our claim of a vast fresh water Source sufficient for the environment and their expanding needs ?    
 
Ray Walker (Retired Colorado River Water Rights Analyst)
waterrdw@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the eighty-four (84) years since the signing of the Colorado River Compact, complex maneuvers have been on-going which have created mountains of paper, but not a drop of new water for the Colorado River. </p>
<p>Thousands of meetings and millions of dollars have now been spent. </p>
<p>Thorough knowledge of water rights in the arid southwest and strict adherence to the &#8220;law of the river&#8221; is absolutely essential to solving such a complex puzzle as providing ample new water for the ribbon of fluid so often fought over.  Above all else, the riddle can only be solved if no existing water rights are in the least bit damaged.  Furthermore, no plan is viable without ample protection for the environment and its creatures. </p>
<p>The pages of the struggle for a real &#8220;wet water&#8221; solution may someday be written, because the marvelous Source has in deed been discovered, analyzed and is ample for the burgeoning populations, industry and recreation.  Secondary return flow use of waters from the Source can restore the estuaries of the Colorado River Delta and Salton Sea.. </p>
<p>Why is it that the entities/agencies which have been empowered to divert, deliver and distribute the water of the Colorado River have not pursued the investigation of such a wonderful resource ?  Have they not been notified of its existence ?   Have they not been assured that the Source is real ?  Of course they have !   Even with a guarantee, they have thus far formulated no way to proceed with analysis and evaluation of the fountain of ample supply.</p>
<p>As the meetings convene and players take their seats in the halls of justice and convention centers, let it be known that a real Source solution does indeed physically exist which is legally and economically feasible to develop to provide  a new non-tributary Source of 750,000 acre feet of fresh water each year for the dwindling Colorado River.</p>
<p>Have we found in your publication, a messenger who can help deliver to the 25 million who rely on the Colorado River, our claim of a vast fresh water Source sufficient for the environment and their expanding needs ?    </p>
<p>Ray Walker (Retired Colorado River Water Rights Analyst)<br />
<a href="mailto:waterrdw@yahoo.com">waterrdw@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have come to the conclusion that a water tax will have to go into effect in 2007.This will not effect Nevada residents. The tax revenue will come from tourist especially California residents who are sucking all of our resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have come to the conclusion that a water tax will have to go into effect in 2007.This will not effect Nevada residents. The tax revenue will come from tourist especially California residents who are sucking all of our resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-432</guid>
		<description>It is all about the money.  Pat Mulroy, county commissioners, city council members and the rest of the politicians in this community are far to busy trying to further their own personal agendas at the expense of this city.  No one is interested in what is best for Las Vegas; if they were, they would put a moratorium on building which would curb population growth.  I am just disgusted!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all about the money.  Pat Mulroy, county commissioners, city council members and the rest of the politicians in this community are far to busy trying to further their own personal agendas at the expense of this city.  No one is interested in what is best for Las Vegas; if they were, they would put a moratorium on building which would curb population growth.  I am just disgusted!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-433</guid>
		<description>Here's a catch. How about converting sea water to drinking water? Maybe with global warming and rising sea levels we could stop the flooding of millions and solve a water problem.... Nah...we ain't that smert. But we'll spend billions to pipe it in from inland areas that need it? wow......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a catch. How about converting sea water to drinking water? Maybe with global warming and rising sea levels we could stop the flooding of millions and solve a water problem&#8230;. Nah&#8230;we ain&#8217;t that smert. But we&#8217;ll spend billions to pipe it in from inland areas that need it? wow&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/blog/2006/11/28/water-for-las-vegas-valley-could-cost-billions/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Las Vegas has created its own prison. If we stop growth , we will put 1/2 the population out of work (Unlv survey of 2 years ago). If we continue to build ...well we will dry up the lake and we will all be out of luck. Either way Las Vegas will die, its just a matter of who does the killing...The city officials or Mother nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Las Vegas has created its own prison. If we stop growth , we will put 1/2 the population out of work (Unlv survey of 2 years ago). If we continue to build &#8230;well we will dry up the lake and we will all be out of luck. Either way Las Vegas will die, its just a matter of who does the killing&#8230;The city officials or Mother nature.</p>
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